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Learning Disabilities,Mental Illness,Astrological Indicators
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Raymond
2003-11-30 20:36:28 UTC
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Hi,


I want to get some things straight. I have been writing posts about
learning disabilities and other related disorders because I want to
help other overlooked and misdiagnosed learning disabled people to be
understood. I don't believe that a person can possibly understand a
learning disabled person if he or she is not learning disabled nor
doesn't have a close relative that is learning disabled. There is a
negative view about mental illness too. Some people think that if a
person has a mental illness, then that person is dangerous even if
they have depression and anxiety which is very common. I find that
rather ignorant and ridiculous. However, it does bother me that there
are people who get away with crimes because of mental illness
including a man who only got 12 years for shooting and stabbing my
mother because he was diagnosed with schizophrenia. There are lot of
people with mental illness who aren't violent, and they are even
peace-loving. I even knew a schizophrenic lady who is very
intelligent, sweet, loving, spiritual,artistic, creative, idealistic.
She is a great cook too, and I did notice that people complimented her
on her cooking. I even remember somebody complimented her in how she
prepared Mexican food even though she's a vegetarian. She has Sun in
Pisces trine Neptune in 6th and Moon in Virgo in 4th square Neptune.
She is a highly sensitive person that believes in natural healing.
Psychiatrists ignored her requests to not take psychiatric medication.
Honestly, I didn't feel that she was schizophrenic, but she did seem a
bit too idealistic. She thinks the world is a wonderful place, and I
feel that the world sucks and the majority of people treat each other
like crap. She also might have appeared eccentric because she didn't
shave her legs, but a lot of women in Europe don't shave their legs.
She might have believed in European traditions. Should an American man
be in a psychiatric ward for wearing a kilt which is native to
Scotland? I saw a woman who talked trash to a man who was wearing a
kilt. She told him to take off his skirt. I have Pisces Moon square
Neptune, but I have enough Saturn and Scorpio to know the reality of
cruelty in our world. My idealism is about believing that we should
all love each other because we are all human and all connected through
God, and that was highly influenced by my multiethnic ancestry and
pantheistic beliefs.

I believe that a mental illness can give a person a strong sense of
compassion. The mentally ill person often feels like the misunderstood
underdog, and so he or she wants to reach out to people who are
suffering from situations that are not even remotely like theirs but
share a common denominator that includes not feeling that that they
fit in, being ostracized, and being stigmatized. That's why a lot of
them become Psychiatrists and Psychologists. However, some of those
people project their mental health issues onto other people. Other
mentally ill people don't want anything to do with the conventional
mental health field, and so they end up as Astrologers, Numerologists,
Alchemical Hypnotherapists, Jungian Psychologists, and other
alternative counselors. A lot of them might find that their beliefs
cause them to have conflict with what is real and what is not real
when it comes to "hallucinations" which might actually be religious
and spiritual experiences. Would a fundamentalist Christian
psychiatrist think a Roman Catholic woman is crazy for having visions
of the Virgin Mary and the saints? Would a Roman Catholic psychiatrist
believe a Native American man is crazy for having shamanic visions?
Would an atheist believe a mystic is crazy for his visions? I believe
so, and that is why I would never want to be a conventional mental
health practitioner. I don't want to be forced to diagnose nor give
referrals for people to be diagnosed with psychotic disorders when
they just have spiritual or religious perceptions. If I was found out
by colleagues and superiors that I "underdiagnosed" "schizophrenic"
people even though they reported "hallucinations" which I believed
were religious or spiritual experiences, then I could be held
accountable for the deteriorations of the people's mental health even
though they may actually be having spiritual or religious
break-throughs. Additionally, my own mental health would be
questioned, and I would end up being examined and eventually diagnosed
with a psychotic disorder because of my own spiritual and religious
beliefs. I might be prevented from working in the conventional mental
health field which could actually turn out to be a blessing for it
might ultimately lead me to alternative counseling in which I have the
freedom to take people's religious and spiritual beliefs into
consideration.

I knew a Lutheran woman who told me that she studied Psychology
because she felt that it was compatible with her Lutheran beliefs
which included believing that people who are involved in Astrology and
other metaphysical fields are going to Hell. I don't know about you,
but I would not want her as my shrink! After she told me that, she and
I haven't been friends ever since. This was back in the summer of
1999. The ironic thing about the situation is that she and I met
through a Astrology Matchmaking Service called AstroMate. I even did
her chart and gave her reports. She has Moon in Pisces like me with
Pisces Venus trine Neptune. In the beginning, what I had read in
Astrology books led me to believe that Lunar Pisceans and other people
with strong Neptune were open to alternative religious and spiritual
beliefs that include Astrology and reincarnation. My experience with
the Lutheran woman made me learn that is not always the case. I
believe that Lunar Pisceans and other people with strong Neptune
influences can believe in something so strongly and blindly that they
disregard what others believe in. My Roman Catholic mother used to do
that. She once called me a devilworshiper for being a pagan and being
involved in Astrology and tarot cards. She assumed if people didn't
believe in crosses, then they are in cults. My mother has Sun in 12th
trine Neptune in 5th along with Venus-Uranus conjunction in 2nd square
Neptune. A Neptunian can be a racist, bigoted, and cruel person driven
by fanatic beliefs. Adolf Hitler had Sun semisextile Neptune with
only 2 minutes of arc, Neptune sextile Midheaven, and a 5th harmonic
triangle of Moon,Saturn,and Neptune that was tight enough to form Moon
oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint which is the same midpoint
configuration that I have. Neptunians can be atheists too. Sigmund
Freud had Moon square Neptune, and he was an atheist. He even thought
religion was detrimental to people's mental health. I knew a person
with Moon in Pisces square Neptune that was an atheist, and he told me
that he couldn't believe in anything that he chose to use a name of a
skeptic. I was like that for a couple of years when I was in the navy,
and I have Pisces Moon square Neptune like him. That all changed after
my Pisces Moon grandfather committed suicide which led to my deep
searching for the meaning of life which brought me back to believing
in God and opening my mind to Astrology which I was always very
skeptical of but now is my most favorite subject until I started
reading about learning disabilities.

I suspected that a lot of learning disabled people have been
misdiagnosed with mental illness because of my own experiences. It is
not like I just figured that I have a learning disability because I
read things about it. I was taken to specialists which included a
neurologist when I was 3 years years old because of my speech and
coordination problems. I had speech and coordination therapy before I
even started elementary school. Like a lot of Dyslexics, I was both a
late talker and walker. I had 3 years of special education that
included intensive phonics and multisensory instruction until the 3rd
grade. Since then, I haven't had any special help but still had
problems that included poor short term memory,absentmindedness
oversensitivity, disorganization, directional confusion, reading
comprehension and other things that are common in Dyslexics even
though I ended up being a B average student from 6th to 9th grade.
Even during those times, I felt stupid because of my past spending
time in a special ed class and being called "retard" by normal kids.
When I was in 5th grade and riding on a Sunday School church bus, an
older fellow mulatto kid who knew me from my early childhood years
rubbed it in about me being handicapped even though I was already in
mainstream education class and didn't have the speech and coordination
problems that I had before the 3rd grade, and I was even getting good
grades. Then I sadly realized that the past doesn't go away, and that
I will always be "the retard." That is how I used to think until I
learned about learning disabilities last Spring.

When I was in 2nd grade, I knew a girl who was also in special ed
class, and her name was Ginger. I don't know why she was in special
education class, but it is possible that she was Dyslexic like me. She
didn't have any speech problems like I had. She was the first girl
that I ever had a crush on. She would always sit next to me until the
cafeteria monitors separated us because we had to sit with our
classmates, and she wasn't in my class. She actually disobeyed the
first time that she was told to not sit at my table. She went into my
classroom when she wasn't supposed to, and that's how I found out her
name. I admit that I was so shy that I didn't bother to ask her name.
After I went to another school in the 3rd grade, I lost contact with
her and finally ran into her at Sunday School at Evangelistic
Christian Center when I was in 5th grade. It was the first time that
I went to that church, and it was the weekend before Christmas (I
started going to the church because I was afraid to tell the man "No"
when he asked me if I wanted to go to Sunday School right in front of
my mother. He had come to home to see if any kids wanted to go to
Sunday School. I didn't want to look like I was a bad kid. I ended up
going to that church for 3 years. I gave up on Christianity shortly
after I learned about the theory of evolution back in 7th grade.)
Talk about a wonderful Christmas present. I gave her all my candy,
and I exchanged phone numbers with her. I learned about her ethnic
background - French and Japanese. She was of mixed ethnic parentage
like me. She looked White with long straight sandy brown hair and
green-blue eyes. You could tell that she was part Oriental because of
her slighly slanted eyes. She and I received the Holy Ghost together
at the church. Christians believe that the Holy Ghost gives you the
ability to speak in tongues. I stopped believing in that since I gave
up on Christianity. Ginger ended up moving to New Jersey, and so I
was a bit sad. I didn't have contact with her again until I was in
12th grade. A friend of mine gave her my phone number, and so she
called me. It was the first time in 7 years. I wanted to cry with
tears of joy. She told me that she wanted to be a special education
teacher, and I admired her for that. I have to admit that I felt
intimidated. I didn't want to be reminded about my special education
days which I didn't talk about to her. She didn't see me as retarded
even though she knew that I was in special ed when we first met. She
even admired me for the poems that I had written and even told me that
I should get them published. She really had a rough life. She had a
history of sexual abuse by her stepfather and she was very promiscuous
which didn't really sit well with me because I was a virgin back then
and wasn't interested in premarital sex. She told me that her father
was killed in an accident when she was 1 year old. She was hanging out
with gang members and drinking a lot. She even got kicked out of her
home for being drunk and arguing with her stepfather, and so I lent
her some money to help her out. She never paid me back. I lost touch
with her after I joined the navy.

I don't know her full birthdata, but she was born on August 29, 1972
- the same birthday as Michael Jackson! She had Sun square Neptune,
and she did have substance abuses, was misunderstood, didn't know her
father,and there was deception involving her stepfather in the form of
sexual abuse. She also liked the wrong guys which were the gang
members, and she got beat up by some of those guys. She also seemed to
be very sensitive. She also had Venus contraparallel Neptune which can
indicate falling in love with the wrong people, but it can also
indicate accepting others as a lover regardless of what background
they are because Neptune can be about "we're all in it together". She
has Venus square Uranus, and I would say that indicates her attraction
to people of other ethnic backgrounds. Interracial relationships are
unconventional too. She has Sun in Virgo(the same sign that my
Ascendant is in) in my 12th house and is opposite my Moon in Pisces in
6th, sextile my Sun in 2nd, square my Jupiter in 3rd, and square my
retrogrograde Saturn in 9th. Actually, her Sun is the 4th leg to my
t-square. I did lend her money to help her out and didn't get it
back. That could have been karma. She had Moon in Taurus (her strong
sensuality and need for physical comfort) which is the opposite sign
of my Sun, Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio. Her Venus in Cancer trined
my Venus in Scorpio less than 1 degree, and that could indicate the
attraction and affection that we first had for each other. Her Mercury
in Leo and her Sun-Mars conjunction in Virgo were in my 12th house,
and that might indicate possible karmic connection between her. I
could see it as a spiritual and compassionate connection which had
some deception. She and I did first meet as misunderstood special ed
students and met again in a church, and then later on, I helped her
and I got taken advantage of. I also find it interesting that she and
I were both born on the 29th day which is associated with
inspiration,spirituality,idealism,high
sensitivity,imagination,intuition,great potential, and very
challenging lessons. I even read about 29 being compared to the
tribulations of Job in the Bible. Job was the guy who Satan afflicted
with all kinds of hardships including killing all his kids and making
him sick, but he refused to curse God, and he ended up with abundance.
Any ways..There is an example of a former special ed student who
ended up with self esteem issues, substance abuse issues, and sexual
issues. A matter of fact, she was the one that I was referring to
when I explained reasons for hypersexuality in the bipolar child. I
guess that my experiences with her is an example of my Pisces Moon in
6th square Saturn in Gemini in 9th-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd
t-square. It makes sense that the first girl that I had a crush on was
a fellow special education student. She and I shared special
education, mixed ethnic parentage, child abuse, losing father as an
infant, interested in people of a different color, and being born on
the 29th in common. I hope that Ginger is doing very fine now.

A lot of gifted learning disabled fall between the cracks. They can
just get by as just average and even B average students in spite of
their learning disability, not doing all their homework, and not
studying much. They may have uneven report cards and uneven
standardized tests. They do exceptionally well in some things and very
poor in others. Parents and teachers will often think that they
aren't applying themselves. That's how I was as a student. High
sensitivity is even a common trait of the gifted too. A lot of gifted
children get misdiagnosed with ADD/ADHD.

When I was a special ed student in the 1970's, Dyslexia was thought to
be only a visual processing disorder which involves reversals, but now
Dyslexics are thought to have a phonological deficit and to have some
auditory processing problems. That means that a lot of Dyslexics
without visual processing disorders were not even diagnosed and even
misdiagnosed. A lot of learning disabled people don't get diagnosed
until their adult years. Recent research from last November reveals
that Dyslexia is a multisensory disorder. Research from 1999 revealed
that Dyslexics have problems with auditory processing when it comes to
rapid series of sounds. Dyslexics can improve their reading skills
that they can be average to even above average in reading skills.
Dyslexics' reading problems can even be prevented if there is early
intervention by the age of 6 years old. There is even research that
Dyslexics can have inner ear problems that causes their Dyslexic
symptoms. Visual processing problems are in a small percentage of
Dyslexics. Dyslexia is not just seeing things the wrong way.
Dyslexics might even just have a different way of thinking. According
to the book, THE GIFT OF DYSLEXIA by Ronald D. Davis(a Dyslexic
himself), Dyslexics think in pictures and in 3-D. That's what I do
all the time. There is research that shows that Dyslexics are picture
and 3-Dimensional thinkers. That certainly seems like Neptune at
work. There is also research that shows that Dyslexics' have
equal-sized hemispheres of the brain while nonDyslexics have left
hemispheres that are larger than right hemispheres, and that can
explain why Dyslexics are very rightbrained. Maybe I should get my
brain scanned to see if my brain is like those Dyslexic brains because
I am very rightbrained myself. THE MIND'S EYE is a book that is much
written about the imaginative thinking of people with learning
disabilities that include Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, Winston
Churchill, William Butler Yeats, Leonardo Da Vinci General George
Patton,and Michael Faraday. It also describes the symptoms and traits
of the learning disabled in much detail.
From the book, IN THE MIND'S EYE by Thomas West
Spontaneous and Demand Language

Children with Dyslexia or learning disabilties often have trouble
speaking on demand - that is, when an immediate verbal response is
required by the social situation. They are caught unawares "on another
intellectual plane," to use Galton's words. However, these children
may have little difficulty with what is called "spontaneous language,"
that is, language initiated by the speaker when the speaker is fully
ready to speak. In the MISUNDERSTAND CHILD, Larry B. Silver provides a
description of this anomaly:

Children with a specific language disability usually have no
difficulty with spontaneous language. They do, however, often have
problems with demand language. The inconsistency can be quite
striking. A youngster may initiate all sorts of conversation, may
never keep quiet, in fact, and my sound quite normal. But put into a
situation that demands a response, the same child might answer "Huh?"
or "What?" or "I don't know." Or the child may ask you to repeat the
question to gain time, or not answer at all. If the child is forced to
answer, the response may be so confusing or circumstantial that it is
difficult to follow. She or he may sound totally unlike the child who
was speaking so fluently just a minute ago. This inconsistency or
confusion in language behavior often puzzles parents and teachers. A
teacher might put a child down as lazy or negative because he or she
does well when volunteering to speak or answer a question, but won't
answer or says "I don't know" when called on. The explanation could
lie in the child's inability to handle demand language, but
contradictory behavior like this makes sense only if you know about
the disability.

That is exactly how I have always been. It gets me seen as not paying
attention by teachers. It makes me thought of as being stupid by
fellow students. I makes me thought of as having a thought disorder by
psychiatrists. The whole misunderstandings make me really fed up.
Bottom line: People judge levels of intellect and sanity from a
person's speech.

Sometimes, I wish that I had pursued a career in special education. I
admire everybody who helps children with special needs, and I used to
be involved with a woman who did just that. She helped children with
special needs kids as a daycare and preschool teacher. I even told
her that I used to be one of those kids, and she still accepted me.
She didn't think that I was stupid any way because I did an Astrology
reading for her when we first met online in an Astrology chatroom. She
has Sun,Mercury, and Venus in Aquarius. She also has Neptune in 1st
conjunct Ascendant in Sagittarius with Moon in Pisces in 3rd house.
She told me that she had some Dyslexic issues, and she felt dumb. I
feel that she is very intelligent as well as very
compassionate,kind,sweet, loving, ethereal,considerate,humane,caring,
idealistic, and sensitive which are the traits in women that I am very
attracted to, and they are my anima traits indicated by my Pisces Moon
square Neptune and Venus parallel Neptune. She didn't care about money
and material things. She even shared my belief in Unity and Universal
Love. She has experienced problems with anxiety and depression from
low self esteem and insecurity just like me. I wish that she gets
every good thing that she deserves.

According to the book, THE BIPOLAR CHILD, learning disabilities and
high sensitivity are common in Bipolar children. That confirms my
suspicions that a lot of highly sensitive and learning disabled people
are being diagnosed and even misdiagnosed with mental illness. A lot
of people with ADHD are being diagnosed with Bipolar, and ADHD/ADD
often have comorbidity with learning disabilities and sensory
integration disorder. According to the book, THE OUT OF SYNC CHILD,
sensory integration disorder often gets mistaken for psychological
problems. According to the book, UNDERSTANDING DEVELOPMENTAL DYSPRAXIA
by Dr. Madeleine Portwood, Dyspraxics can be insomniac, stressed,
depressed, anxious, and indecisive. They can have difficulty planning
and organizing their thoughts. They often have poor memory and may
keep forgetting and losing things. Dyspraxia has links with ADD/ADHD,
and they may daydream and wander about aimlessly. If you look at these
symptoms and traits,you'll notice that these are traits of diagnosed
schizophrenics and bipolars. There is high comorbidity with ADHD and
psychiatric illness in Dyspraxics, and there is often a clinical
diagnosis of Depression made.

A lot of people including astrologers believe that learning
disabilities are caused by psychological problems, emotional problems,
poor parenting, or just plain laziness. Learning disabilities are
real, and if a learning disabled person is misunderstood, then that
person can greatly suffer because of ignorance. A lot of the traits
and symptoms that I read in the DSM-IV-TR, Diagnostic Statistical
Manual of Mental Disorders, seem like traits and symptoms of highly
sensitive learning disabled people. How many learning disabled people
are afraid to do things in front of people and be evaluated?. Many of
them are like that. Shrinks call that Social Anxiety Disorder. I
wonder how many shrinks ask their socially anxious patients if they
have a history of learning disabilities. None of them asked me.
That's for sure. Dyslexia and Inner Ear Expert, Harold N. Levinson ,
who has 2 Dyslexic children of his own, pointed out that many
educators and clinicians often overlooked and/or denied Dyslexia's
presence - especially of reading-score-compensated cases-and would use
such poorly understood diagnostic labels as stupid, lazy, spoiled,
immature, undisciplined, bad, and even retarded. The use of these
terms emphasized the underlying presence of professional frustration
and ignorance. 25 years of research into the nature of Dyslexia, and
the analysis of over 25,000 causes, have led Dr Levinson to conclude
that most Dyslexics feel dumb, despite being smart; hence the title of
one of his books, SMART BUT FEELING DUMB which is the book that I had
recently bought, read, and most of all - identified with. I totally
felt like I was reading about myself that I felt a mixture of relief
for finding out there is people that have a clue about what I have and
anger at the people who labeled and misdiagnosed me in ignorance.

A lot of Dr. Levinson's psychiatric patients turned out to be
Dyslexic. His research has led him to recognize the existence of an
unfortunate psychological equation that links Dyslexia with feelings
of stupidity, ugliness, and klutziness or lack of coordination -
feelings of inadequacy often resulting in social withdrawal, shyness,
depression, alcoholism, drug addiction, criminal acts, and years of
fruitless psychotherapy. I can definitely relate to those things
except for alcoholism, drug addiction, and criminal acts. Both of my
parents had all those issues. My mother even told me that she didn't
feel smart until her 30's despite having a high IQ, and she never went
to high school. She even qualified for college level English, and I
saw her test results. Her math scores were terrible. She has some
auditory processing problems like me, and she didn't like to talk much
despite having Sun in Gemini(Not all Geminis like to talk a lot ). She
was a very quiet little child like I was. She told me that our
relatives told her that I was just like her when she was a little
child. She even told me that she can relate to a lot of the Dyslexic
symptoms that I read to her. She is not a good speller either. She is
definitely a highly sensitive and emotional person
(Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,and Uranus Cancer with Moon and
Saturn in Scorpio..Sun in 12th trine Neptune, Pluto conjunct
Sun/Neptune midpoint, Neptune square Sun/Pluto midpoint. She'll go
off if people talk to her like she's stupid. She has Pluto in 3rd
square Moon in Scorpio. She is an awesome cook and cosmetologist. My
father was a highly sensitive and emotional person with speech
problems(stuttering and stammering with very softspokenness) and
problems with high school. He also had some awkwardness when it came
to fixing things just like me, and so my mother was the handyman. He
was a very good dresser and knew how to coordinate outfits well just
like me. He had Moon in Pisces and stationary Neptune along with
Mercury in Capricorn trine retrograde Saturn and Jupiter. My
mother's brother,Eddie was in special ed for speech problems(he had
Neptune in 3rd like me..he has Mercury in Virgo trine Saturn), and he
had problems with hyperactivity(Uranus rising and Moon in Aquarius).
He ended up being an accountant and owns his own catering business. He
smokes weed and even used cocaine. He has Moon sesiquadrate
Uranus/Neptune midpoint, Venus conjunct Neptune/Ascendant midpoint ,
Neptune/Ascendant midpoint opposing the Aries Point, and Mercury
oppose Saturn/Midheaven midpoint. My mother's brother, Denis had
problems with school and dropped out of high school, but he's good at
working with people including bartending, managing clubs, and cooking.
He smokes weed. He has Sun-Mars-Neptune stellium in Scorpio in 11th
square Moon in the last degree of Cancer in 8th house. He also has a
t-square of Mercury in Scorpio square Uranus-Chiron opposition. My
mother's sister, Dominga dropped out of high school and is a poor
speller, but she has done well working for the Veteran Administration.
She even told me that she can relate to a lot of the Dyslexic symptoms
that I read to her. She smokes weed. She has Sun conjunct Neptune in
12th, and she has Mars conjunct Ascendant in Scorpio square Uranus.
She has Moon square Chiron. She is a lesbian, and that is one of the
reasons that I have nothing against homosexual people and believe in
same sex marriages. Her daughter, Shavon has ADHD, and she qualified
for college level English in spite of 9th grade being her last
completed grade, and she plans to study to be an artist. She smokes
weed. She has Sun parallel Neptune along with Moon conjunct Chiron.
Every one of my relatives that I have just mentioned are highly
sensitive people with substance abuse issues, and they definitely have
indicators of that in their natal charts. Another interesting thing
is that everybody in my family looks younger than their age. They all
have been involved with illegal substance use. Luckily, I haven't done
any of that. I learned from my family's mistakes. My mother told me
that her paternal uncle, Gino has Dyslexia. Research shows that
Dyslexia and other learning disabilities, ADD/ADHD, high sensitivity,
mental illness, and substance abuse runs in families. I know a lady
diagnosed with Depression and Borderline Personality Disorder with
substance abuse issues, and she has a Dyslexic daughter and a son who
had speech problems and has serious behavior problems. Her son is
taking psychiatric medication for Depression too, and he's only 12.



from the book, SMART BUT FEELING DUMB by Dr Harold Levinson

The stuff in parentheses are my own remarks, not Dr. Levinson's

Dyslexia is a commonly recognized as a learning disorder characterized
by reading, writing, and spelling reversals. Despite the growing
attention this elusive (Neptune) disorder has received since it was
first recognized in 1896-97 by two English physicians, W.P. Morgan and
J. Kerr, dyslexia has remained a scientific enigma (Neptune), defying
most attempts at medical understanding, diagnosis, prediction,
treatment, and prevention.

Researchers and clinicians were unable to comprehend and define the
dyslexic disorder - unable to understand its wide range of fluctuating
educational, medical, mental, and emotional symptoms

Clinicians and educators were incapable of simply explaining to
patients and their families the various underlying mechanisms
affecting reading, writing, spelling, speech, direction, grammar,
concentration, behavior, balance, and coordination. Few, if any,
recognize fully the depths to which this disorder penetrated the very
soul of its victims. Dyslexia was naively(Neptune) viewed as if it
were merely a severe reading disorder characterized by reversals.


Not recognized was the agony, suffering, humiliation, and despair
experienced by patients and their families ( Neptune and Saturn)

(My mother and I definitely went through that. My humiliation from my
experiences as learning disabled in special ed class have made me very
humble and keeps me from teasing and bullying other people and putting
them down. I get angry when I see any handicapped people being teased
and bullied or any people for that matter. I strongly believe in
treating others like I want to be treated. Experiencing life as
learning disabled actually made me easily empathic, compassionate and
sympathetic.)


Not recognized was the fact that dyslexics frequently compensate, thus
becoming normal or superior readers, and that a variety of
educational, psychological, and IQ tests could not diagnose or rule
out this disorder.

(I wasn't able to read until the 2nd grade. Just recently scored in
the Superior range in Reading Skills and Very Superior Range in
Writing Skills on the Basic Skills Test for Veteran's Vocational
Rehabilitation. I still have problems with short term memory when it
comes to reading though. I have to read over and deeply concentrate or
use picture thinking before comprehension occurs. I don't like to read
long books in small print. I tend to lose my place easily. I also tend
to get stressed and confused from reading words...especially in bright
or flourescent lights. I noticed that I do that a lot on tests. It is
essential for me to take a break from reading. I am very picky when it
comes to reading material. I also read a lot of nonfiction books
without going from beginning to end or I will end up bored. I often
begin at the middle of a book. )


Not recognized was the fact that dyslexia could be a consequence of
ear infections, mononucleosis, post concussion syndromes, or multiple
sclerosis.

(I have a history of ear infections. My mother even told me that she
had to take me to the hospital when I was a baby because of a serious
ear infection. My mother also has a history of serious ear
infections, and she does have Dyslexic symptoms)

Not recognized was the fact that dyslexia may be associated with a
wide range of more serious surface disorders, such as mental
retardation, cerebral palsy, and deafness.

Not recognized was the fact that hidden dyslexic component of the
above disorders could be effectively treated medically for the first
time, resulting in an overall improvement in both the hidden and
surface disorder.

Not recognized was the fact that almost all the previously existing
assumptions and convictions pertaining to this disorder were found to
be in error.

Not recognized was the fact that most phobias and many so-called
mental, emotional, and psychomatic disturbances were caused by the
same physical disturbance underlying and causing dyslexia

(Learning disabilities are common in Bipolar. I get the manic and/or
"slight thought disordered" label from shrinks, and a lot of it has to
do with my rapid,rambling, and loose Dyslexic speech which Dr.
Levinson talks about in his books. I also get very nervous and anxious
when I am around health professionals, and I am just highly sensitive.
Being labeled as depressed and anxious is fine with me, and that is
what I felt from my living as a learning disabled person who feels
dumb. I asked to be diagnosed with Anxiety and Depressive Disorders
just like my mother, but being labeled other mental disorders is
terrible- they are way off base. . People who talk rapidly or rapidly
under situations that cause anxiety and nervousness aren't necessarily
manic or ADHD. A lot of rappers would be labeled manic or ADHD. A lot
of them have that rapid fire way of doing lyrical expression. People
who run fast aren't ADHD nor ADHD. I was a very fast sprinter since
junior high school too. Fast sprinters aren't necessarily manic nor
ADHD. If that was so, then Olympic track athletes have the greatest
amount of mania and ADHD. Carl Lewis and Jesse Owens would have been
seen as the most manic and hyperactive people.)



Not recognized was the fact that many so-called Freudian slips of the
tongue, pen, hand, mind....were really Dyslexic slips.

(I often make Freudian slips...even when I type in chatrooms and in
discussion forums....a lot of people who make a lot of Freudian slips
of the tongue are seen as being stupid....President Bush is one
example...maybe he's Dyslexic.....interestingly, he has Neptune in 3rd
like me)


Not recognized was the fact that no traditionally accepted theories
and concepts of Dyslexia had ever been scientifically validated.

Not recognized was the fact that no theory could explain and encompass
the improvements resulting from all other theoretical approaches:
optometric, occupational, educational, psychological, chiropractic and
temporomandibular-joint (TMJ), allergic, and nutrition therapies.




If the inner ear and cerebellum are responsible for coordinating,
inhibiting, and/or releasing normal reflexes, and

If some reflexes are poor inhibited and coordinated among dyslexics,
and

If some anxiety and motion-sickness release mechanisms are
"abnormally" triggered in dyslexics, and

If the cerebellum or inner-ear system is an "organ" whose prime
function is inhibition, according to Nobel prize winner Sir John
Eccles,

Then might not a dysfunctioning inner-ear or cerebellar system with
failure in inhibitory power result in the release of old, primitive,
reflexes, i.e. universal phobic responses?

This reasoning can explain how universal phobias may occur without any
external trauma or trigger. It also accounts for the universality of
these fears and their complete independence of specific patterns of
childhood rearing and personality profiles. Needless to say, external
triggers may, under traumatic circumstances, also precipitate the
release of corresponding universal phobias. Thus, for example, an
attacking dog or a bee sting or a hissing snake may resonate with and
trigger the release of a corresponding phobia.


Incomplete Psychiatric Assumptions

Most clinicians, psychiatric and otherwise, assume that a disorder is
psychologically or emotionally determined if obvious physical or
physiological factors cannot be found. In the absence of a clearly
defined physical basis for a disorder or symptom, psychoanalysis and
psychiatrists quite naturally propose the presence of unconscious,
unseen, intangible emotional or mental mechanisms. Unfortunately
errors have been made.




Just last weekend, I put my writings about misunderstood learning
disabilities along with online information about learning disabilities
in a folder and gave it to the psychiatrists for them to read. I told
them that I want them to understand me, and so I asked them to read
the material. I even read the difference between Dyslexic speech and
psychotic speech from SMART BUT FEELING DUMB to a psychiatrist. I even
showed my CAP test results which shows my scoring in the 98th
percentile in both Word Knowledge and Language Usage portions of the
test. I showed the letter from the Western Career College Admissions
advisor that said that I scored 190 out of 210 on the assessment test.
I wanted to show that I am not stupid nor incompetent. I am one of
those types of people who goes out of his way to get his point across.
That's why I always bring my own DSM-IV-TR with me in order to point
out things to them like showing irritability is listed under Anxiety
and Depressive episodes and not just under Manic episodes. I bring
papers and read them to psychiatrists about highly sensitive people
and show that there is even a seminar class for highly sensitive
people here in Sacramento that is conducted by Dr. Debra Moore. I also
show my books about highly sensitive people which were written by Dr.
Elaine Aron. I also wanted to let them know that I should have never
been diagnosed with Bipolar or any other mental disorder in the first
place. Depression and Anxiety are the only disorders that I can
relate to, and my mother was diagnosed with those disorders too. Those
were the disorders that I wanted treatment for in the first place. I
was never even given a psychological test, and they definitely don't
have any diagnostic tests. They didn't test me for pyroluria which
pulls Vitamin B-6 and Zinc out of the body and causes excessive mood
swings. They didn't even do an MRI on me. I didn't even do a writing
sample to show that my thoughts are organized. They just went by my
speech. They even noted in my record that my intelligence is average,
but they never gave me an intelligence test. You cannot judge a
person's intelligence from the way they talk. I even read that people
with Williams Syndrome have good speech skills but they have mental
retardation. If they did that to me when I was a little kid with
speech problems, they would have noted that I was mentally retarded. I
recently asked about getting psychological testing done so I can prove
to those people that there is nothing wrong with my thinking except
that I am learning disabled which I also asked to be tested for. I
was told that they will look into that. I want to make sure that I
get the learning disability documented in my medical records and make
copies so I don't have to put up with more ignorant B.S. I wish that
I had the documents of the findings of my speech, auditory processing,
and coordination problems that were recorded before I started
elementary school. I might fly all the way to New York to see Dr.
Harold Levinson and get diagnosed with Dyslexia and get treatment for
it. I would even volunteer to be listed in one of his books. I am a
perfect example of a misunderstood Dyslexic who has went through a lot
of misfortunes because of ignorance, and I am definitely smart but
feel dumb. I can get my story out and help other Dyslexics. I do
intend to tell my story to other people including community newspapers
and magazines in my area like the Sacramento News & Review. I want to
show how the shrinks messed up. If a depressed woman, who was
misdiagnosed with schizophrenia, can write a book educating
psychiatrists about the misdiagnosing of mental disorders, then I can
write an article talking about how learning disabilities can be
misdiagnosed. Of course, I will tell my story to alternative
lifestyle and New Age magazines in my area. There is a lot of people
in the holistic field and New Age here in Sacramento. I even go to
Intuitive Healing Arts Festival here in Sacramento , and it is held
every mid March, July, and November. Interestingly, it takes place
when Sun is in a watersign. I hope to participate in the Intuitive
Healing Arts Festivals years later as an Astrologer, Numerologist, and
Holistic Practitioner. It would be nice to see any of you there.

I have a grand trine of Sun-Mercury conjunction in 5th, Mars in
9th,and Ascendant in Solar Return Chart, and so it is a year mainly
for expressing myself and my views, and I am definitely going to do
that and help children in the process.




Here are some aspects, planetary placements, and midpoint
configurations that I feel fit right in with lear ing disabilities,
and I have almost 20 myself. Please keep in mind that having these
aspects,planetary placements,and midpoint configurations don't
necessarily mean that you have learning disabilities. I wanted to make
that clear right away before anybody makes assumptions and gets on my
case. I am only pointing out Astrological factors that have
interpretations that resemble traits and symptoms that many learning
disabled syndrome people have. That includes Dyslexics, Dyspraxics,
ADHD/ADD, Sensory Integration Disordered, Asperger's Syndrome, and
Autistics.

Note: Because of the highly imaginative thinking and high
sensitivity(high reaction to external stimuli...emotional and sensory)
that is common in learning disabled syndrome people, I added certain
Pisces, 12th house, and Neptune factors

Please feel free to give input and even add certain factors. I am not
very fixed when it comes to ideas, and so I can be rather flexible.(I
do have a mutable t-square in cadent houses and mutable rising sign).
However, I don't like being talked to in a condescending manner like
I am stupid,ignorant, childish or crazy. I won't just change my ideas
because it doesn't fit your view of things. After all, I do have the
right to having my own ideas like everybody else does. I cannot stand
people who tell me this aspect or this placement doesn't work this way
after I say how it does in my life. It can work differently in
others' lives. That's why it makes no sense to do scientific testing
on natal charts to see if an aspect has a definite manifestation( e.g.
all people with Moon square Mars have violent tendencies....Martin
Luther King Jr had Moon square Mars, and he was a man of nonviolence,
but he was a fighter for rights in his domestic environment - his
home country.). I just like to research,investigate, and just
learn...then hopefully, I have relevant,important, and interesting
things to share with others. I like to learn from other people too.
Every time I read the posts in the Astrology groups, I learn
something. That is what I am all about.


COSI, The Combination of Stellar Influences:

Moon in Pisces,12th house - Susceptibility to external influences,
subject to moods, a hopeful or optimistic state of mind, the danger of
unconditional yielding or drifting, a feeling of inferiority, the
danger of exploitation or drift
(I have Moon in Pisces)

Sun in Pisces,12th house - Reserve, receptiveness, the faculty to
absorb, moodiness,impatience, negligence, love of comfort, a secretive
nature Restrictions in life caused through inner inhibitions,
difficulties caused through a negative attitude

Saturn in Pisces,12th house - Modesty, reserve, difficult work in
seclusion (often without recognition), Timidity, growing loneliness,
depressions, a struggle with opponents

Neptune in Pisces, 12th house - reserve, an inclination to mysticism,
reverie and artistic pursuits, - the inner or psychic life is open to
external influences, pessimism, a craving for alcohol, nicotine, etc.,
pathological tendencies and inclinations

Uranus in Pisces, 12th house - an inclination to mysticism, mysterious
aspirations, subconscious forces. - secretive behaviour, the state of
being misunderstood or of not being understood at all, reverie or
reveling ecstasy

Mercury in Pisces, 12th house - A person who is easily influenced in
his or her thoughts by others, a receptiveness for the thoughts of
others, the ability to reproduce, fantasy, and imagination - planning
without energy of action and philosophical ideas

Neptune in Gemini, 3rd house - Impressionability, the faculty to
understand others with one's sensitive nature, fantasy and
imagination, the faculty to become inspired at times, a love of
nature, mystic tendencies and aspirations. - A dual nature, a confused
imagination, a lack of clarity. - wrong ideas about other people, a
weak memory
(I have Neptune in 3rd)

Saturn in Gemini, 3rd house - A great zeal for study, thoroughness in
one's work, logical thinking, preoccupation with difficult problems,
conscientiousness. - small capacity for adapting oneself to
circumstances, awkwardness and clumsiness, shyness
(I have Saturn in Gemini)

Mercury/Neptune - Wrong thinking, faulty judgment, confused ideas and
(perceptions or) notions, a rather nervous sensitiveness, insincerity,
fantastic visualisations, untruthfulness or the tendency to tell lies
lack of clarity, self - deception disturbances which originate in
the subconscious, self-deception, a lack of clarity, failures through
an incorrect behavior, inner confusion.
(I have this one in the declinations......Mercury parallel Neptune
with 33 minutes of arc)

Mercury/Saturn - An inhibited mental development (caused sometimes
through defective speech), distrust, shyness, narrow-mindedness, a
conservative attitude, a self-willedness or obstinacy, an
uncommunicative and reserved disposition. obstinacy, tenacity, or
endurance, clumsiness, or heaviness, industriousness, the state of
enduring or suffering without yielding. the blocking of the
nervous system, painconducting nerves. - the functional relationship
of the nervous system to the organs of speech and hearing.
(I have this one in declinations....Mercury contraparallel Saturn
with 38 minutes of arc)


Mercury = Sun/Neptune - little intelligence, a lack of logical
thinking, only a small measure of objectivity, False logic or speech
defects - Mental disturbances, nerve-weakness, deceptions or illusions
(I have this one as midpoint configuration....Mercury conjunct
Sun/Neptune midpoint with 14 minutes of arc)


Sun/Saturn - inhibition, hereditary affliction, karma, separation.
inhibitions in mental or physical development, the inclination to be a
pessimist. lack of vitality, developmental inhibitions
(I have Sun quincunx Saturn with 13 minutes of arc......by the way, I
am not short....I am 5'11)

Moon/Saturn - uncommunicativeness, feelings of inferiority, changes of
mood, melancholy, self-will, anxiety, lack of self-confidence,
mirthlessness, the fear of being compromised or exposed by indiscreet
action self-control, abstemiousness, thrift, selfishness, the
tendency to grumble and fine fault
(I have Moon square Saturn with 1'58 orb)

Moon/Neptune - sensitivity, the ability to feel and to understand
other people's troubles in a sympathetic manner, inner vision and
imaginative perception, inspiration, far - reaching wishes, intensely
vivid dream experiences. fanciful imaginings or illusions,
self-deception, a lack of stability, proneness to lying or telling
untruths, the tendency to gravitate towards low - grade spiritism and
mediumistic illusions. a refined sense of feeling, a love of
solitude caused by being misunderstood and unsatisfied, a peculiar
disposition and strange notions
(I have Moon square Neptune with 1'23 orb)

Moon = Saturn/Neptune - emotional depression, pessimism, the inability
to develop or mature emotionally, a low character. - illness through
emotional suffering, women's diseases
(I have this one in t-square and as midpoint
configuration..........Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint with 17
minutes of arc)

Mars = Mercury/Neptune - Thinking with a purpose, great powers of
imagination (the disposition of a genius). - The realization of plans
or inventions, acting according to deliberation and experience.
(I have Mars square Mercury/Neptune midpoint with 50 minutes of arc)

Uranus = Mercury/Ascendant - irritability, the tendency to loose one's
temper quickly in the presence of other people, the urge to become
upset or heated about other people - frank discussions brought about
suddenly
(I have Uranus conjunct Mercury/Ascendant midpoint with 36 minutes of
arc)

Neptune = Mars/Jupiter - feelings of inferiority, falsehood,
unfaithfulness, plans without a chance of realization. - a hopeless
relationship, failures, delayed or difficult births.
(I have Neptune semisquare Mars/Jupiter midpoint with 17 minutes
orb.....delayed or difficult births is very interesting: I was born
after 23 hours of labor.......poor Mom!)

Moon = Mars/Midheaven - Impulsiveness, premature action, a lack of
deliberation or thought, strong emotional excitability. - the desire
to impose one's own will upon a woman, an independent or excitable
woman.
(I have Moon semisquare Mars/Midheaven midpont with 23 minutes of arc)

Moon = Sun/Pluto - brutal suppression of the feelings, irritability
(illness of the female organism).
(I have Moon sesquiquadrate Sun/Pluto midpoint with 4 minutes of arc)

Neptune = Venus/Midheaven - A peculiar attitude to the problem of
love, shyness, unexplainable dislikes or aversions, - renunciation,
the state of being unsatisfied and unhappy (in love), the suffering of
the soul
(I have Neptune square Venus/Midheaven midpoint with 17 minutes of
arc)

Saturn = Jupiter/Neptune - Pessismism, lack of self confidence, the
feeling of being abandoned by one's luck, - the experiencing of the
consequences issuing from false hopes, plans which come to nothing,
disappointments, losses.
(I have Saturn oppose Jupiter/Neptune with 5 minutes of arc)

Saturn/Neptune - a dual character, strong preoccupation with oneself,
a struggle between the lower and the higher nature, a frequent change
of moods, distrust, insecurity, dissatisfaction a peculiar
character, strong preoccupation with oneself, a struggle between
idealistic and materialistic tendencies poor, sick, or depressed
persons painful or tormenting emotional inhibitions, undermining
circumstances also leading to a state of illness, neuroses or diseases
with causes difficult to ascertain
(I have Saturn oppose Neptune with 3'20 orb and Saturn contraparallel
Neptune with 3 minutes of arc)

Mercury = Saturn/Neptune - Inhibitions in thinking, a slow or
difficult grasp of things, the inclination always to think the worst.
- A nervous disease

MC = Sun/Neptune - being sensitive, weak, ill or impressionable, - A
negative outlook. - Periods of depression, hyper-sensitiveness or
mental and emotional stress

Neptune = Moon/Saturn - feelings of inferiority, depressions,
melancholic nature, lack of self-confidence, mirthlessness, anxiety. -
sickness of the soul

Mars = Moon/Saturn - Inhibitions or feelings of inferiority, the
desire to overcome difficulties, lack of determination, self-control
to the point of torment, soul-conflicts. - Illness or separation of
women

Node = Moon/Saturn - lack of adaptation and self confidence, the
tendency to shun other people - association with uncommunicative,
lonely or sick women

Ascendant = Moon/Saturn - inhibition of development, inhibited
development of the personality - Meeting with sick or depressed
people, mourning or bereavement

Uranus = Moon/Saturn - Impulsive release of inner tensions, the desire
to free oneself from inhibitions - nervous tension, sudden mental and
emotional suffering, separation

Uranus = Sun/Saturn - Fluctuating attitude towards life, emotional
tensions, sudden inhibitions, nervousness - Unusual circumstances,
crises, separation, mourning, seclusion, (imprisonment).

Sun = Uranus/Neptune - lack of vitality, a sensitive physique,
impressionability, - unconsciousness, illness, lifelessness, or
impassiveness

Sun = Saturn/Neptune - physical reaction or illness as a consequence
of emotional suffering or upsets, lack of vitality, a sensitive
physique, a propensity to illness

Pluto = Sun/Neptune - Afflictions through emotional or physical
suffering, an extremely high sensitiveness, a tragic deception or
illusion.

Sun = Neptune/Pluto - a sensitive physique, sensitiveness,
impressionability or proneness to external influences. - peculiar
diseases (as a consequence of overindulgence in alcohol, nicotine,
etc., or in medicaments), succumbing to strange influences

Node = Sun/Neptune - The demonstration of a negative or weak attitude
in the presence of others. - association with sick, weak persons or
with blood-relations

Neptune = Sun/Pluto - Impediments in physical or mental development,
sensitiveness, and impressionability of a high degree, lack of vigor,
- The undermining of health or of vocational position, martydom

Mercury = Sun/Saturn - Inhibited thinking, the tendency to have grave
or depressing thoughts, the tendency to tackle serious problems. -
Thinking of separation, the inhibition of speech.

Neptune = Sun/Saturn - Inhibitions in mental development, psychical or
inner peculiarities, lack of vitality. - a mental, emotional or
physical crisis

Mars = Sun/Saturn - Inhibitions in mental or physical development,
seclusion, the feeling of loneliness. - Soul-crises caused by one's
own inhibitions or by other person's, mourning

Moon = Sun/Saturn - Emotional depressions partly in connection with
organic distubance, emotional inhibitions,fear, feelings of
inferiority. - Increasing loneliness, the separation of females, a
bereavement

Neptune = Sun/Moon - Inner discontentment, the tendency to torment
oneself, the disposition to get upset quite easily. - Shared
suffering, mistake, misunderstandings, illusions, or deceptions, the
undermining of associations.

Uranus = Sun/Mercury - Incoherent and erratic thinking, sudden ideas,
inventions, a flair for applied science and technology, organizationm
and reforms. - adjustment to new circumstances in life

Neptune = Sun/Mercury - The play of imagination, the development of
fantasy and imagination, inspiration, the tendency to simulate and to
deceive oneself. - Writers, visionairies and also swindlers or
crooks. The experience of deception

Neptune = Sun/Jupiter - A dissonant mood, feebleness, high
sensitivity. - a successful medium, the crook - The undermining of the
health, a material loss.

Ascendant = Sun/Saturn - Difficulties in the development of one's own
personality, the misunderstood person. = Separation

Pluto = Saturn/Neptune - Developmental inhibitions owing to illness

Mars = Sun/Uranus - a person prone to hasty physical action,
precipitation and rash action. - Injury, accident

Ascendant = Sun/Uranus - a person easily excitable. - sudden
experiences, new associations

MC = Sun/Uranus - an excitable and restless person wtih far-reaching
plans. Reformers, inventors, technicians. - Experiencing the impact of
sudden events or of emotional upheavals

Moon = Sun/Uranus - emotional exitability, impulsiveness, rashness, -
Sudden experiences with the other sex, a nervous and agitated woman

Mars = Sun/Neptune - a weak will to live, weak muscular power, lack of
incentive to work, very little sex-life. - a weakened or disturbed sex
life

Uranus = Sun/Neptune - sudden upsets or excitements, nervousness,
convulsions or spasms. - a suddenly emerging weakness or illness, an
inner or an emotional crisis, mourning

Sun/Neptune - Sensitiveness, weakness, illness impressionability
and susceptibility, a negative attitude to life, weakness, plans
without the power to carry them through, peculiar ideas, the craving
for drugs and narcotic stimulants, self deception. frailness,
impressionability, a person subject to moods

Saturn = Sun/Ascendant - Inhibitions, shyness, difficult to attainment
of recognition. - Difficulties in public life. The sharing of
suffering together with others, separations.

Neptune = Sun/Ascendant - reserve, an inclination to mysticism,
reverie and artistic pursuits. - the inner or psychic life is open to
external influences, pessimism, a craving for alcohol, nicotine, etc.,
pathological tendencies and inclinations









Pisces Ascendant

You are a gentle, sensitive person with a deep understanding of people
and a very tolerant, accepting, nonjudgmental approach towards life.
In a noisy, competitive atmosphere you are often receding and
withdrawn for you are not an aggressive, forceful person, and you
intensely dislike conflict. In fact you tend to be somewhat passive,
to wait, watch, observe, feel and know much - but to act little.
Letting things resolve or work themselves out in their own way, rather
than directing or forcing your will upon them, is often your way of
dealing with problems.

You may have a deeply religious or spiritual feeling about life,
not in the orthodox sense necessarily, but an intuitive sense of the
immensity and underlying oneness of all life, which makes so many
human aspirations and striving seem rather unimportant. You need
peaceful surroundings in order to flourish, and periods of quiet
solitude are essential for your emotional balance and well-being.

You are also very compassionate and cannot tolerate seeing any
fellow creature suffer - be it human, animal, or even plant! As a
child you probably cried very easily and became quite upset whenever
others were hurt, physically or emotionally. The world of your
imagination and fantasy was also very real to you, a place to escape
to when the outer world became too harsh, demanding, or simply
uninteresting.

Because you are very giving and forgiving, people in need
gravitate to you, sensing your sympathetic nature. Often you will
continue to give to a person even when you realize they are taking
advantage of you or becoming overly dependent upon you. You overlook
and make excuses for other peoples' weaknesses, and for your own as
well. Discrimination and self-discipline are not your strong points.

Though you may be as intelligent as anyone, you do not really have
a rational, logical approach toward life, and trying to reach you
through logical arguments is often futile. Your feelings, intuition,
and heart, not your head, lead you, which may infuriate or bewilder
your more rational friends. You certainly recognize that there is much
more to life than can be explained intellectually and categorized into
neat little boxes, and you have an open, receptive attitude toward
such areas as psychic phenomena, telepathy, parapsychology, etc. You
are not as structured and rigid in your attitudes as many people are,
which enables you to see many different points of view and to accept
all of them as valid. This can lead to vagueness, uncertainty, and
confusion on your part - or to a very flexible and holistic way of
approaching any issue.





Sun in Pisces

At heart you are very gentle, impressionable, and receptive - a
dreamer. The world of your imagination, feelings, and intuition is as
real to you as anything in the outer world, though you may have
trouble verbalizing or interpreting your inner experiences in a way
others can understand. Mystical, artistic, musical, emotional and
imaginative, you have a rich inner life, though you may seem rather
unobtrusive and quiet outwardly. You usually keep to yourself.

You have great sensitivity and empathy with others, and you often
sense things psychically or intuitively which prove to be correct. You
are tolerant, forgiving, and nonjudgmental, accepting people
unconditionally regardless of their flaws, mistakes, or outward
appearance. You have deep compassion for the suffering of any fellow
creature and often feel others' pain as if it were your own. You
sympathize with the needy, the disadvantaged, the misfits of society.
You are capable of giving selflessly, living a life of devoted and
compassionate service to others, as a healer, physician, social
worker, or minister. However, you tend to give indiscriminately, to
let others take advantage of your kindness, and to encourage the weak
to remain so by becoming dependent upon you. You have little sense of
boundaries, of limits, of knowing when to say "no". Moderation and
self-discipline are not your strong points.

You are a lover and a peace-maker rather than a fighter, and you
try to avoid open conflict. You will patiently ignore or "tune out"
problems and hope they will go away by themselves, rather than
directly confronting them, and you tend to lack the positive fighting
spirit that is sometimes necessary to overcome challenges. You are
fluid, open, nonresistant, and somewhat passive. You do things in a
subtle, often covert, manner.

Your gifts may also lie in the realm of the creative, artistic, or
musical, for you have a great sensitivity, inspiration, and limitless
imagination. You respond very strongly to beauty and to love.

Your faults include a tendency to be lazy and negligent, and to
wallow in self-pity rather than taking strong, definite action to
change your life for the better. You also tend to become so detached
from your immediate environment that you live in a disorderly, chaotic
sort of hodgepodge, though this probably bothers those around you more
than it bothers you.




Moon in Pisces (I have this one)

Tenderhearted and sympathetic to an unusual degree, you have an
understanding of other people's feelings and needs which borders on
being telepathic. You are extremely compassionate and cannot bear to
see any fellow creature - be it human or animal - suffer. Because of
your kindness and nonjudgmental attitude, people in pain or confusion
are drawn to you for help, which you readily give. Sometimes your
softheartedness is taken advantage of.

You are a gentle and poetic soul, and you have a great love and
affinity for music. Because many of your feelings are nebulous and
vague and you cannot easily verbalize how you experience life, music
seems a natural language for you. You are also tremendously romantic
and are often "in love with love".




Mercury in Pisces

You are more of a poet than a rational scientist, for your mind does
not function in a strictly logical, linear fashion. The language of
music, art, or poetry is natural to you, and you are also able to
think in highly abstract and symbolic terms. Translating your thoughts
and impressions into concrete, everyday language may be difficult for
you at times and consequently you may appear less intelligent or at
least less quick-witted and verbal than others. This was especially
true of you as a child, and you probably daydreamed a good deal also.
You are intuitive and are able to sense what others' thoughts and
feelings are, even before they say anything to you. You often form an
opinion about a person or situation without much factual knowledge of
them, and your impressions are usually correct. You can be somewhat
absent-minded and you become so immersed in your own thoughts that you
overlook things in your immediate, tangible environment. You are
extremely open-minded and believe that anything is possible.
Intangible or spiritual forces seem just as real to you as anything in
the concrete world. Your imagination and your sympathetic
understanding of other people are two of your greatest gifts.



Mars in Pisces

You are noncombative, noncompetitive, and something of a pacifist. You
will give something up rather than fight for it. You may seem
weak-willed or ineffectual, for you do not have a strong ego drive for
personal achievement and material advantage, or for winning at the
expense of someone else. Being first, being best, being on top doesn't
mean much to you, and you can be quite happy in a supporting role,
working for the benefit of others or for a cause that you believe in.
You are gentle and impressionable and are motivated by less mundane
and less tangible things than most other people. You may have
difficulty formulating clear, definite goals for yourself and making
your way in the world. You have many dreams, high ideals, and a strong
mystical or religious impulse. You also have a creative imagination
and can successfully apply yourself to art or music. You have a
sensitive physique and need to maintain good regular health habits in
order build strength and stamina.





Sun in 12th

You tend to get involved in the helping professions or in activities
where your efforts are hidden, behind the scenes, unacknowledged, or
unknown to the public. Asserting yourself or getting up in front of an
audience may be exceedingly uncomfortable for you.



Moon in 12th

Your own feelings and emotions are something of an enigma to you, and
it is often difficult for you to share with others what you are
feeling.

You frequently withdraw from contact with the world, and need a
healing, peaceful environment in order to blossom and come out of
yourself.

You identify with the oppressed, disenfranchised or underdog in
any situation and want to help them or care for them in some way.




Mercury in 12th

You don't speak up readily, even when you have a lot to say! Also,
your mind tends to drift and you find it difficult to study very
factual material that doesn't have much color or imaginative appeal.
Your intuition and first impressions are likely to be quite accurate,
however, and you tend to depend upon this faculty in making decisions.




Mars in 12th

Asserting yourself and being direct and forceful about what you want
is very often difficult for you. Though you may have a great deal of
energy and drive, you lack confidence or simply the desire to put
yourself and your interests first. Positively you can be very
unselfish, working more on behalf of others rather than for yourself.

You deny your own desires and needs too much, however, and you
are likely to secretly become very angry, which will sabotage your
finest efforts.




Saturn in 12th

You may have nebulous but ever-present guilt and fears that are
difficult to pinpoint or eradicate. It's as if you don't trust Life
itself, and are always seeking ways to defend yourself from its
dangers and its unknowns. You must learn to overcome your ingrained
habit of discouragement and anxiety, and to see the world more as a
friendly place than as a treacherous one.




Neptune in 1st (Neptune might influence my 1st house because it
sextiles my Pluto in 1st....I am not sure when it comes to aspects
between outerplanets in houses)

You are yielding, gentle, and impressionable. You tend to "melt" into
your surroundings, and do not make a very powerful, vivid impression
on others. Especially while young, you may not have a very clear sense
of identity.

Sensitive and compassionate, you do not enjoy fighting and no
matter what you profess, you are a pacifist at heart.



Neptune in 3rd (I have this one)

Daydreaming, lack of concentration, and inattention to your
surroundings can be problems for you. Your mind tends to wander unless
you are using it in an imaginative, creative way. Dry facts and cold
logic hold no appeal for you, and unless a subject has a colorful or
personally inspiring element, you won't stick with it for long. You
have a sensitive, intuitive bent.




Neptune in 6th (Neptune influences my 6th house because Moon in Pisces
is in my 6th house and Neptune squares the Moon in 6th....so 6th house
is doubly influenced by Neptune)

You have a sensitive physique and may have allergic responses and
sensitivities to foods, medicines, or anything you take in from the
environment. Emotional stress and confusion seem to affect you
physically, even more quickly than they affect other people.



Neptune in 7th (Neptune rules my 7th house)

You often have very naive, idealistic, or overly romantic attitudes
toward people, and it's difficult for you to see others realistically.
You may prefer to keep your relationships on an idealistic or platonic
level, so that you don't have to deal with the more prosaic, earthy,
human aspects of relating.

Thoroughly investigate potential marriage or business partners,
as your gullibility and desire to see only the best in people may
blind you to the truth about others with whom you form a close
alliance.




Neptune in 8th

You have a very active imagination and powerful fantasies. You may
develop an interest in the supernatural, psychic phenomena, or occult
subjects. You may have strange fantasies and/or nebulous fears of
"ghosts", "the astral plane", or death. It's better for you not to
dabble in such areas unless you are thoroughly grounded in the
practical world as well.




Neptune in 10th

You are a very idealistic person, and you want to see your ideals,
hopes, and dreams made concrete and real in the everyday world. You
are driven to put your ideals into action.

When young you may be rather aimless or confused about your place
in the world. In early adult life it is likely that you struggle to
find ways to express your imagination, fantasies, and ideals in your
career. Work that involves compassionate service (such as medicine or
the ministry) may be your calling. If you lack personal integrity and
honesty, you quickly go to the opposite extreme and you can con others
through dishonesty and trickery. Music, art, film-making or
entertainment are also areas in which you are well-suited.



Neptune in 12th

Compassionate and extremely sensitive to the emotional tones in the
atmosphere surrounding you, you are naturally "psychic" or able to
sense and understand much about a person without talking to them or
knowing them consciously at all. You are deeply interested in the
hidden realms of life and the afterlife. Your powerful sensitivity may
also remain latent or repressed through much of your life and then be
fully awakened in adulthood.



Neptune conjunct Ascendant

You are gentle and receptive and often you do not make a clear,
strong impression on others. You have an elusive and subtle quality,
and people may be nebulous about who you are. You are easily
influenced by others and somewhat naive. You have a spiritual,
mystical approach to life and are very idealistic and sometimes
impractical.



Moon conjunct Neptune

You are a sensitive soul, a dreamer, very much attuned to the world of
imagination and fantasy. You often retreat into your own inner world
in order to escape the harshness of everyday living in the "real
world". Gentle and often rather passive as well, you will not fight or
assert yourself, even when you need to. You are very sympathetic and
somewhat naive emotionally and must guard against being taken
advantage of.




Sun conjunct Neptune

Sensitive and imaginative, you are attracted to artistic and creative
pursuits and to mysticism. You are impressionable and receptive, and
you often have experiences that are unusual and unexplainable by the
rational mind. You have an abundance of dreams, visions, and longings,
but do not always have the concentrated will and stamina to make them
concrete. Gentle, idealistic, and peace-loving, you often seek to
avoid the hard realities of life. You have an ethereal quality about
you.




Mercury conjunct Neptune (I have Mercury parallel Neptune....parallels
have the same effect as conjunctions)

Your mind does not function in a linear, logical manner and you are
often unable to express your thoughts in simple, everyday language.
Symbols, images, art, or music better express your ideas. Flights of
imagination and fantasy carry you into strange and beautiful worlds,
and you could develop the ability to transcribe some of your
perceptions to share with others, for example, by writing fantasy,
fiction, lyrics, or poetry. You are sensitive to nuances and possess
intuitive or psychic gifts, but you may become confused between
imagination and true perception. You have a strong mystical and
idealistic bent, and have difficulty concentrating your attention on
practical or mundane activities. You are strongly attracted to
metaphysical and spiritual topics.



Mars conjunct Neptune

You have a very active and fertile imagination and your ambitions are
never strictly mundane, practical, and concrete. You have a strong
desire to act out your fantasies, dreams, visions, and ideals.
Artistic creation, drama, or other areas in which you can express
yourself imaginatively are excellent for you. Ordinary life seems drab
and uninteresting to you, and you need to have some big dream or
something larger than your own narrow personal interests to live for.
Sometimes you may be confused about exactly how and where to direct
your energy and often drift along rather than making clear decisions
about what you want. You have a passive side and at times lack the
will power, physical energy, strength, and the fighting spirit to
achieve your aims.




Sun in hard aspect to Neptune

You are extremely sensitive and imaginative, and you can get lost in
your dreams, fantasies, and visions. You are attracted to artistic and
creative pursuits, the world of color, beauty, and emotion. You are
also drawn to mysticism and have deep spiritual aspirations and
yearnings. Gentle and peace-loving, you may lack the will and
competitive spirit needed to make your way in the world. You are often
impractical and may seek to avoid or escape the hard realities of
life.



Moon in hard aspect to Neptune (I have Moon square Neptune)

You are a dreamer, attracted to the inner, mystical side of life, and
may have trouble distinguishing the real from the imagined or
illusory. You do not enjoy confrontation and become very evasive when
problems in your personal life arise, escaping into your imagination
in order to avoid dealing with them directly. You are also rather
gullible and naive about people, especially if your sympathy has been
aroused. You are very sensitive to music and can use it to bring
yourself into emotional balance and harmony.




Mercury in hard aspect to Neptune

Your mind is highly imaginative and creative and you possess dramatic,
artistic, or musical abilities. As a child, you enjoyed daydreaming,
fantasizing, pretending, and probably lived in "your own little world"
a good deal. You perceive things which are not obvious to other people
and you have an uncanny ability to "read" people and situations
without being told anything about them. However, you must learn to
discriminate between a true psychic perception and your imagination.
Learning to discipline and focus your mind is necessary if you wish to
use all of your creative potential. Otherwise, you could be simply a
dreamer.

Communication with others is difficult for you because you often
find words frustrating and inadequate to express your experiences and
perceptions. Also, you may purposefully mystify or deceive others.




Mars in hard aspect to Neptune (I have Mars square Neptune in wide
aspect)

Ordinary life often seems drab and uninteresting to you and you must
have something that stirs your imagination, some vision or ideal or
dream to motivate you. You have a strong urge to act out your
fantasies or to live your dream, and you will DO things that others
only talk about or dream about. Artistic creation, drama, or other
areas in which you can express yourself imaginatively are excellent
for you.

Work that serves only your own narrow personal interests does not
satisfy you. You may lack the competitive edge, the fighting spirit,
the me-first attitude that is often required for material advancement
and success. You also tend to either overestimate or underestimate
your own power and ability





Moon in 1st

You have a soft exterior and tend to relate very personally and
sympathetically to other people. However, you sometimes let your
emotions overpower your reasoning and logic, and consequently you are
sometimes biased in your opinions. You are impressionable and rather
gentle, or at least that is the way you appear. Your feelings are on
the surface and you can not hide your emotions.




Moon conjunct Ascendant

You are impressionable, sympathetic, and responsive to the emotional
tone and atmosphere around you. You harmonize, blend, and adapt
yourself to other people. Often you are rather quiet, just listening
and feeling. You are subtle and know when to keep silent and wait. You
act instinctively, sensing and intuiting when the time is right for
action.



Saturn conjunct Ascendant

You have a mature and rather heavy, solemn demeanor, and you tend to
take yourself and life too seriously. You possess a great deal of
self-control, self-discipline, and a very strong conscience. You may
be dogged by feelings of personal inadequacy and inhibition. You seem
authoritarian to others.




Saturn in 1st (Saturn incfluences my 1st house because it trines Pluto
in 1st.........not sure if aspects between generational planets
matter...I consider Saturn to be a generational planet)

You have a mature, disciplined, serious attitude toward life which
colors everything you do. Caution and realism are your virtues though
you limit yourself at times by being too careful, shy, or fearful, and
not believing in yourself enough or being assertive when necessary.
Others find you difficult to get to know intimately, as you tend to
distance yourself from them or to put forth a rather stern, "adult"
face to the world.



Saturn in 3rd (Saturn influences my 3rd house because Saturn opposes
my Neptune in 3rd)

You are serious-minded and may have difficulty making light social
conversation or participating in friendly, personal interchanges.

You try to be strictly accurate and are critical of people who
exaggerate or talk on subjects they really know little about. You
withhold your thoughts and opinions until you have thought everything
through quite thoroughly, and sometimes your silence discomforts
others.

Your mental concentration is very good but your breadth of
understanding may not be.




Saturn in 10th

You are very conscientious, responsible, and concerned with your duty,
your public image and reputation, and becoming a person of stature in
the world. You understand the need for hard work and careful planning
in order to accomplish anything substantial and you're capable of much
self-discipline and patience once you set your sights on a goal.

But you are very judgmental and hard on yourself if you fail to
attain success, and you can become dry, bitter, or cynical if the
world doesn't recognize your efforts.




Moon in hard aspect to Saturn (I have Moon square Saturn)

You often feel that you must do something or be something other than
what you are in order to receive approval and acceptance from others.
You are very sensitive to criticism and easily feel left out or
neglected, and though you may appear cool or distant, you actually
care very much about being included. Because you are so sensitive, it
may seem easier for you to withdraw into a shell rather than risk the
emotional bumps and bruises that can occur when you let others really
know you in an intimate, personal way. Your reserve and caution make
establishing a close emotional rapport with others difficult for you,
and you become very attached to the few people you consider "real
friends". You can gain inner security and strength through periods of
solitude if you view them as times to nourish yourself and develop
your own interests, rather than as times of loneliness.




Sun in hard aspect to Saturn (I have Sun quincunx Saturn)

Feelings of personal inadequacy, inhibitions, and self-doubt often
plague you. You have a cautious, careful, realistic attitude toward
life and are highly responsible and disciplined with regard to your
obligations and duties. You tend to work and struggle more than you
need to, and to take yourself too seriously.



Mercury in hard aspect to Saturn (I have Mercury contraparallel
Saturn....contraparallels have the same effect as oppositions)

You have an aptitude for solving difficult mental problems due to your
careful, methodical approach, attention to detail, and tenacity in
following a matter through to its conclusion. You have good powers of
concentration and enjoy studying and thinking in solitude. You can get
wrapped up entirely in your own thoughts and completely engrossed in
some small detail. You are slow and cautious, but extremely thorough
in your work. Conservative and something of a skeptic, you may be
narrow-minded or closed to any idea which has no concrete proof or
scientific verification. You prefer dealing with facts rather than
abstract speculation. You may also be distrustful or fearful of
anything you cannot understand with your rational mind. You are
well-suited to work in research or any field that requires careful
study and thought.




Mars in hard aspect to Saturn

You work hard and patiently to achieve your objectives, persevering
and continuing on in spite of difficulties and discouragement.
Concentrating on a single, clearly defined goal, you are able to
accomplish much, but you often feel that the way is long and arduous,
and that you must struggle on alone, that it's all on your shoulders.

You are capable of great self-control and self-denial and can be a
hard task master, expecting far too much of yourself. You also tend to
hold yourself back, to doubt your own power and ability. You feel that
you meet with great resistance whenever you try to assert yourself or
take initiative. Anger and frustration can be big problems for you,
especially when you try to work with other people or depend too much
on others for support. You work best in solitude.






I am going to try to do some research on famous people with Dyslexia.
I wish that I had Tom Cruise's birthdata. Tom Cruise is Dyslexic.
He gives credit to Scientology for curing his Dyslexia.




Ray
Cappi8
2003-12-02 00:52:04 UTC
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Hi Raymond,

I didn't read all your post because it was too long but I would be
interested in your research regarding learning disabilities and mental
illness. I have a teenage daughter who is learning disable (very smart but
can't learn the tradional way that is taught in schools) and I have been
dignosed with major depressive illness when I was in my late 20's.
Depression runs in my family.

Other famous people who are dyslexic are: Cher, Ozzy Osborne, just to name
a few.

Q: Where would one look into a chart for signs of either one of the above?

Thanks

Cappy08

I am going to try to do some research on famous people with Dyslexia.
Post by Raymond
I wish that I had Tom Cruise's birthdata. Tom Cruise is Dyslexic.
He gives credit to Scientology for curing his Dyslexia.
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JDPoeland
2003-12-03 04:21:06 UTC
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In a message dated 12/01/2003 4:52 PM PST, "Cappi8" ***@hotmail.com wrote:
<< Hi Raymond, I didn't read all your post because it was too long but I would
be interested in your research regarding learning disabilities and mental
illness. I have a teenage daughter who is learning disable (very smart but
can't learn the tradional way that is taught in schools) and I have been
dignosed with major depressive illness when I was in my late 20's. Depression
runs in my family. >>

All's I can tell you is that such things are ALWAYS indicated in/described by
an *accurate* horoscope -- i.e., based on one's EXACT birth time, place, and
location!!

<< Q: Where would one look into a chart for signs of either one of the above?
Thanks Cappy08 >>

Why not simply send post her birth data??? No need to mention names, although
to sone who also do numeroology, it will be telling/useful. It's been my
experience that very frequently (re: dyslexia) there is a harsh aspect twixt
Mercury & Uranus -- not necessarily always an obvious one. Depression is most
often re: to hard Moon-Saturn aspects (even temporarily, by transit of/from
Saturn); its severity depends on the makeup one's chart overall.
Post by Raymond
I am going to try to do some research on famous people with Dyslexia.
I wish that I had Tom Cruise's birthdata. > Tom Cruise is Dyslexic. He gives
credit
Post by Raymond
to Scientology for curing his Dyslexia.
Yeah, well, whomever ALWAYS credits whatever therapy/born-again religion/
medicines/fasting/et al. w/ curing them of their malady. I'm NOT saying that
he, nor any of them, may not be correct in some, or many, cases!! Just an
observation.

Jim

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