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c***@snet.net
2005-10-29 14:21:22 UTC
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I am interested in testing day for an hour progressions, which were
first (?) suggested by Ronald Davison many years ago.

There is a slight problem with this system, however, in that time moves
forward at 24 times the normal rate, which means that I need software
that can calculate planetary positions for some 2000 years in the
future. I have Winstar, but it only goes out to 2300 AD, so I am
limited to events up to about age 14.

I know that there are astronomical prograns available that will
calculate out many thousands of years, but I wonder if anyone knows of
an astrological program that will do the job?

BTW, I have done a few hourly charts, generally using converse
progressions (astrology programs calculate earlier times easily
enough), and the results are quite extraordinary. This appears to be a
very valid method of progression.

Bob
Ed Falis
2005-10-29 15:00:32 UTC
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Post by c***@snet.net
There is a slight problem with this system, however, in that time moves
forward at 24 times the normal rate, which means that I need software
that can calculate planetary positions for some 2000 years in the
future. I have Winstar, but it only goes out to 2300 AD, so I am
limited to events up to about age 14.
I know that there are astronomical prograns available that will
calculate out many thousands of years, but I wonder if anyone knows of
an astrological program that will do the job?
The Swiss Ephemeris (www.astro.com) can handle out to 5400 AD. One of the
sample programs there should be able to calculate charts out that far as
long as you obtain the needed ephemeris files.

- Ed
Ed Falis
2005-10-29 15:25:09 UTC
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I also have a free program available at
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6qirr/myindex.html

It does not do chart wheels, just the planetary positions and primary
directions. It is based on the Swiss Ephemeris, so its range can be
extended if you download additional ephemeris files from astro.com.

An installer and an update are at the site above for Windows NT, 2000 and
XP. The source code is also available for building the program on Linux
and other UNIX-like systems that support GTK+. Building the program is a
little complicated, but I can offer help.

- Ed
Abhi
2005-10-30 10:17:15 UTC
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Post by c***@snet.net
There is a slight problem with this system, however, in that time moves
forward at 24 times the normal rate, which means that I need software
that can calculate planetary positions for some 2000 years in the
future. I have Winstar, but it only goes out to 2300 AD, so I am
limited to events up to about age 14.
I know that there are astronomical prograns available that will
calculate out many thousands of years, but I wonder if anyone knows of
an astrological program that will do the job?
Try ZET.

http://zaytsev.com/

Even free version should do that.

Abhi
c***@snet.net
2005-11-01 15:16:22 UTC
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Well, it will take a better man than I am to figure that site out!

I just spent a half hour poking around in there and all I could find
was where to enter my birth data. How do you progress a chart? Or can
you?

I notice that the Swiss ephemeris goes back a few thousand years, but
foreward only a few hundred. If the capability I need is there it is
sure well hidden!

Bob
Ed Falis
2005-11-01 15:43:05 UTC
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Post by c***@snet.net
Well, it will take a better man than I am to figure that site out!
There are several areas on astro.com. The one that you get when you enter
the site gives online charts and reports. The Swiss ephemeris itself is
in the index on the left, under "Ephemeris", "Swiss Ephemeris for
Programmers". Once you hit the latter link, go to the download area,
select the "programs" directory and get swewin32.zip - this is an example
program for use of the ephemeris to calculate natal charts (it does not do
progressions).

Additionally, you will need to download the ephemeris files themselves,
which cover the range of roughly 5400 BC - 5400 AD. After downloading
swewin32.zip go back up to the directory listing, select the directory
called "ephe", then subdirectory "archive_zip and read the file
README.TXT, which tells which ephemeris files cover which years. Then
download these files from that directory.

After unzipping swewin32.zip, there should be a subdirectory, probably
called "ephe" into which you should unzip the ephemeris files you
downloaded.

astrolog is much more powerful than swewin32, and there is a version based
on the Swiss Ephemeris. I suspect to extend its range to 5400, you will
still need to follow the second part of the instructions above to obtain
the additional ephemeris files.

- Ed
c***@snet.net
2005-11-01 16:28:05 UTC
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Many thanks!

I'll try it this evening.

Bob
Asbolo
2005-10-29 20:13:41 UTC
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***@snet.net wrote:
"I need software that can calculate planetary positions for some 2000
years in the future..."

http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/riyal.html

Uses VSOP87. No external files are needed.

Juan
Chris Mitchell
2005-10-29 23:25:19 UTC
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Post by c***@snet.net
I am interested in testing day for an hour progressions, which were
first (?) suggested by Ronald Davison many years ago.
There is a slight problem with this system, however, in that time moves
forward at 24 times the normal rate, which means that I need software
that can calculate planetary positions for some 2000 years in the
future. I have Winstar, but it only goes out to 2300 AD, so I am
limited to events up to about age 14.
I know that there are astronomical prograns available that will
calculate out many thousands of years, but I wonder if anyone knows of
an astrological program that will do the job?
BTW, I have done a few hourly charts, generally using converse
progressions (astrology programs calculate earlier times easily
enough), and the results are quite extraordinary. This appears to be a
very valid method of progression.
Bob
Solar Fire goes up to 5400CE. It uses Swiss Ephemeris, as do many
commercial programs, so any program using SE should do the same.
James Aronis
2005-10-31 09:18:11 UTC
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Hi,

I'm interested in this type of progression. Do you have any links on
the subject?

Thanks,
James
Post by c***@snet.net
I am interested in testing day for an hour progressions, which were
first (?) suggested by Ronald Davison many years ago.
There is a slight problem with this system, however, in that time moves
forward at 24 times the normal rate, which means that I need software
that can calculate planetary positions for some 2000 years in the
future. I have Winstar, but it only goes out to 2300 AD, so I am
limited to events up to about age 14.
I know that there are astronomical prograns available that will
calculate out many thousands of years, but I wonder if anyone knows of
an astrological program that will do the job?
BTW, I have done a few hourly charts, generally using converse
progressions (astrology programs calculate earlier times easily
enough), and the results are quite extraordinary. This appears to be a
very valid method of progression.
Bob
c***@snet.net
2005-11-01 14:38:48 UTC
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There is no information available that I know of.

Contact me by email (***@snet.net) and I'll tell you what I know.

Bob
JohnHalloran
2005-11-02 07:21:06 UTC
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Post by c***@snet.net
I am interested in testing day for an hour progressions, which were
first (?) suggested by Ronald Davison many years ago.
There is a slight problem with this system, however, in that time moves
forward at 24 times the normal rate, which means that I need software
that can calculate planetary positions for some 2000 years in the
future. I have Winstar, but it only goes out to 2300 AD, so I am
limited to events up to about age 14.
I know that there are astronomical prograns available that will
calculate out many thousands of years, but I wonder if anyone knows of
an astrological program that will do the job?
BTW, I have done a few hourly charts, generally using converse
progressions (astrology programs calculate earlier times easily
enough), and the results are quite extraordinary. This appears to be a
very valid method of progression.
Bob
The $169 AstrolDeluxe ReportWriter draws upon unlimited astronomical
algorithms (instead of limited files) to calculate accurate positions
for an 8,000 year period - plus or minus 4,000 years from the present -
both backward and forward - except that Pluto has been optimized for
accuracy back to 2000 BC, and not forward past 2100 AD. The program is
still accurate to a lesser degree outside that year range.
AstrolDeluxe lets you enter any constant rate when you run Special
Progressions. Here is its description so that you can judge if it will
meet your needs:

Special Progressions are for user-defined rates. Selecting this option
will display a special list box where you can enter and save rate
values to use. Do progressions for any ratio of days to other
celestial cycles. The amount entered into this field will be divided
into the number of days elapsed since the native's birth in order to
determine the number of days after birth for which to calculate the
progressed chart. The default value put in the list box field,
-365.2421896698, which is the reverse of the length of the tropical
year as of the year 2000, lets you experiment with calculating converse
progressions, which go back in time to before the birth. If you do the
research needed to arrive at the value for different celestial cycles,
you will discover that the time periods for these cycles have different
values at different epochs, such as the tropical year of 365.2421958 as
of the 1900 epoch, 365.2421927 as of the 1950 epoch, and 365.2421897 as
of the 2000 year epoch. These differences explain why there are slight
calculation differences between programs, as they may use values from
different year epochs to do secondary progressions. AstrolDeluxe
ReportWriter is actually more sophisticated than the other programs
that I have tested in that it calculates the year length that was
correct in the year that the person was born. Another value that you
could put in the list box field, 12.36826591, is for the ratio of the
tropical year to the synodic month. It is similar to minor
progressions, which is for the ratio of the tropical year to the
tropical month. This ratio will produce a progressed chart for as many
synodic months from the birth date as there are years to the date for
which you are progressing the native's chart.

Information from AstrolDeluxe ReportWriter Help file, © 1993-2002
Halloran Software.

Regards,

John Halloran
--
Halloran Software
http://www.halloran.com Windows Astrology Software

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