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conflicts of sayan & niryan system
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w***@gmail.com
2008-04-10 17:30:23 UTC
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sir,
the followers of sayan systems claims that they are correct on their
predictions on the contrary the followers of nirayan systems claims
that they are correct on their predictions. in both the systems there
is a difference of one sign i.e. almost 23.58.38 lahiri and different
by other scholars . everybody predict according to them but no where
it has written in any book that sayan sun aries will do like this and
niryan sun will do like this. it is an exaple of a planet it is for
every planet and ascendant and other houses.

your esteem reply is awaited

dr ramesh waygaonkar.
CARRIERE FRANCOIS
2008-04-10 18:37:11 UTC
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Hello Dr Waygaonkar,
Post by w***@gmail.com
sir,
the followers of sayan systems claims that they are correct on their
predictions on the contrary the followers of nirayan systems claims
that they are correct on their predictions. in both the systems there
is a difference of one sign i.e. almost 23.58.38 lahiri and different
by other scholars . everybody predict according to them but no where
it has written in any book that sayan sun aries will do like this and
niryan sun will do like this. it is an exaple of a planet it is for
every planet and ascendant and other houses.
First of all, in sidereal astrology there are many traditions about
ayanamsha: Babylonian (Fagan, al pherg in polar longitude, etc.),
greek-indian (Lahiri, based on Spica, Revati, probably one also used by
early greek, and the one in Surya Siddhanta), and purely Indian (Spica in
polar longitude). Then Ptolemeo settle the tropical zodiac. Eastern Indians
kept the sidereal zodiac, except with Vahara Mihira whom we believe may have
used a tropical zodiac, but then there was almost no difference between
tropical and sidereal zodiac, if we use the sasssanian/ushashashi/revati
reform. Etc.

Now, more important. Delineation traditions have developped upon the zodiac
used. So it is difficult to say "both zodiac say the same thing".
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Best regards,
François
John Roth
2008-04-12 22:24:27 UTC
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Post by w***@gmail.com
sir,
the followers of sayan systems claims that they are correct on their
predictions on the contrary the followers of nirayan systems claims
that they are correct on their predictions. in both the systems there
is a difference of one sign i.e. almost 23.58.38 lahiri and different
by other scholars . everybody predict according to them but no where
it has written in any book that sayan sun aries will do like this and
niryan sun will do like this. it is an exaple of a planet it is for
every planet and ascendant and other houses.
your esteem reply is awaited
dr ramesh waygaonkar.
The people on this forum mostly deal with Western tropical astrology;
it's unlikely you'll get a useful answer here.

That said, the followers of every system claim that their system
works. Without a formal analysis by someone who has practiced both
systems for long enough to understand it the same way the regular
practitioners do, comparisons are worth no more than two gorillas
glaring at each other and beating their chests.

John Roth
Jyeshta
2008-04-13 00:41:34 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:24:27 -0500, John Roth
Post by John Roth
Post by w***@gmail.com
sir,
the followers of sayan systems claims that they are correct on their
predictions on the contrary the followers of nirayan systems claims
that they are correct on their predictions. in both the systems there
is a difference of one sign i.e. almost 23.58.38 lahiri and different
by other scholars . everybody predict according to them but no where
it has written in any book that sayan sun aries will do like this and
niryan sun will do like this. it is an exaple of a planet it is for
every planet and ascendant and other houses.
your esteem reply is awaited
dr ramesh waygaonkar.
The people on this forum mostly deal with Western tropical astrology;
it's unlikely you'll get a useful answer here.
I thought Francois answered quite well, John.

G.

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