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2010-03-31 01:01:49 UTC
Recently I've been doing a lot of event charts. You might remember me
asking a while ago about something in the one for the opening of
Tutankhamun's tomb. Well, that one got so interesting that I thought I'd
like to discuss it on here.
These are just speculations; I don't actually know all that much about event
charts. I haven't got round to getting a book that deals with them
specifically, so I've been going by the usual planetary associations and
some stuff from the back of Carter's "Political Astrology". I rather like
doing it by trial and error, and seeing what works. It's probably best to
read my interpretation in much the same way.
The moment in question is 26th November 1922, at Luxor, about 2pm. (Pity,
but you can't always have an accurate time.) This was when they made a hole
in the wall of the antechamber and "saw wonderful things".
One of the most noticeable features is the stellium of Sun, Mercury and
Venus within 6 degrees of each other, all (probably) in the 8th House. My
guess is that this relates (mainly) to the hoard itself. I don't know why
they're all so badly aspected. Can anyone work it out? Anyway, taking them
in order:
The Sun (3 Sag) can mean a king, of course. Particularly a Pharaoh, who was
said to be the son of the sun god. Gold is the metal of the Sun, so that
also makes sense. Both were hidden underground in a tomb, all
quintessential 8th House stuff. I thought the Sun might also have something
to do with Ancient Egypt, in which case 8th would indicate its preoccupation
with death. Sagittarius could indicate the extravagant scale of the
treasure, its fantastic nature, and/or its religious connotations.
Venus (1 Sag) represents luxuries and works of art, along with the royal
gold. I've also seen it described as a bringer of luck in a mundane chart.
Some associate Venus with wealth, which of course makes sense here. For
that the 8th would indicate wealth on a grand scale, along with a flavour of
"other people's money" - it wasn't Carter's personally to do as he liked
with, and eventually it was put in a museum for nobody to spend.
Mercury (28 Sco) might have something to do with discoveries made. Carter
wasn't looking for treasure as such; he wanted to find out the secrets of
Ancient Egypt - which he did. The information would be rather less obvious
than the value and splendour of the treasure, though, hence (maybe) Scorpio.
Mercury might also have some bearing on the magical purpose of many of the
items - perhaps even the famous curse!
"Hermes" pointed out in the earlier thread that the asteroid Proserpina
makes a fourth in the stellium, at 5 Sag. Named, of course, after the Greek
goddess who descended into the underworld and came back again every year.
Pluto (10 Can) is either conjunct the IC or in the 4th House, probably both.
The IC/4th could just mean "underground". Literal, I know, but that often
seems to me the best way with mundane charts. Pluto (in a common
interpretation) holds on to things for a long time, but then breaks them up
dramatically. So it seems to fit the upheaval of the excavation. Cancer,
as well as the IC and 4th, are associated with history. Next to Pluto are
the Pars Fortuna, the fixed star Sirius (which the Egyptians thought very
important) and the asteroid Isis. The Egyptian goddess Isis was known
mainly for having brought her husband Osiris, the first Pharaoh, back from
the dead.
Pluto forms a Grand Trine with the Moon (5 Pis) and Uranus (10 Pis) in 11th
or 12th and Jupiter (6 Sco) in 7th or 8th. I can't make anything much of
these, except that Jupiter in Scorpio might have something to do with
funeral rites. Can anyone do better?
Saturn (16 Lib) could relate to the walling up of the tomb. It's almost
certainly in the 7th, which could indicate things being carried down.
Again, childish, but it's worked before. The chart shows the moment all
this starts to be broken up, which could be shown by the square to Pluto.
I hope one of you can make something of Mars (19 Aqu), because I can't.
Opposite it is Neptune (18 Leo), which oddly enough makes more sense to me.
In the royal sign of Leo (generally considered its exaltation), and the 5th
House of theatre, it seems to tie up with the fairy-tale strangeness of the
whole incident - the "wonderful things".
The Ascendant (8? Ari) and Midheaven (5? Cap) haven't been mentioned because
I can't work them out. Can anyone help?
asking a while ago about something in the one for the opening of
Tutankhamun's tomb. Well, that one got so interesting that I thought I'd
like to discuss it on here.
These are just speculations; I don't actually know all that much about event
charts. I haven't got round to getting a book that deals with them
specifically, so I've been going by the usual planetary associations and
some stuff from the back of Carter's "Political Astrology". I rather like
doing it by trial and error, and seeing what works. It's probably best to
read my interpretation in much the same way.
The moment in question is 26th November 1922, at Luxor, about 2pm. (Pity,
but you can't always have an accurate time.) This was when they made a hole
in the wall of the antechamber and "saw wonderful things".
One of the most noticeable features is the stellium of Sun, Mercury and
Venus within 6 degrees of each other, all (probably) in the 8th House. My
guess is that this relates (mainly) to the hoard itself. I don't know why
they're all so badly aspected. Can anyone work it out? Anyway, taking them
in order:
The Sun (3 Sag) can mean a king, of course. Particularly a Pharaoh, who was
said to be the son of the sun god. Gold is the metal of the Sun, so that
also makes sense. Both were hidden underground in a tomb, all
quintessential 8th House stuff. I thought the Sun might also have something
to do with Ancient Egypt, in which case 8th would indicate its preoccupation
with death. Sagittarius could indicate the extravagant scale of the
treasure, its fantastic nature, and/or its religious connotations.
Venus (1 Sag) represents luxuries and works of art, along with the royal
gold. I've also seen it described as a bringer of luck in a mundane chart.
Some associate Venus with wealth, which of course makes sense here. For
that the 8th would indicate wealth on a grand scale, along with a flavour of
"other people's money" - it wasn't Carter's personally to do as he liked
with, and eventually it was put in a museum for nobody to spend.
Mercury (28 Sco) might have something to do with discoveries made. Carter
wasn't looking for treasure as such; he wanted to find out the secrets of
Ancient Egypt - which he did. The information would be rather less obvious
than the value and splendour of the treasure, though, hence (maybe) Scorpio.
Mercury might also have some bearing on the magical purpose of many of the
items - perhaps even the famous curse!
"Hermes" pointed out in the earlier thread that the asteroid Proserpina
makes a fourth in the stellium, at 5 Sag. Named, of course, after the Greek
goddess who descended into the underworld and came back again every year.
Pluto (10 Can) is either conjunct the IC or in the 4th House, probably both.
The IC/4th could just mean "underground". Literal, I know, but that often
seems to me the best way with mundane charts. Pluto (in a common
interpretation) holds on to things for a long time, but then breaks them up
dramatically. So it seems to fit the upheaval of the excavation. Cancer,
as well as the IC and 4th, are associated with history. Next to Pluto are
the Pars Fortuna, the fixed star Sirius (which the Egyptians thought very
important) and the asteroid Isis. The Egyptian goddess Isis was known
mainly for having brought her husband Osiris, the first Pharaoh, back from
the dead.
Pluto forms a Grand Trine with the Moon (5 Pis) and Uranus (10 Pis) in 11th
or 12th and Jupiter (6 Sco) in 7th or 8th. I can't make anything much of
these, except that Jupiter in Scorpio might have something to do with
funeral rites. Can anyone do better?
Saturn (16 Lib) could relate to the walling up of the tomb. It's almost
certainly in the 7th, which could indicate things being carried down.
Again, childish, but it's worked before. The chart shows the moment all
this starts to be broken up, which could be shown by the square to Pluto.
I hope one of you can make something of Mars (19 Aqu), because I can't.
Opposite it is Neptune (18 Leo), which oddly enough makes more sense to me.
In the royal sign of Leo (generally considered its exaltation), and the 5th
House of theatre, it seems to tie up with the fairy-tale strangeness of the
whole incident - the "wonderful things".
The Ascendant (8? Ari) and Midheaven (5? Cap) haven't been mentioned because
I can't work them out. Can anyone help?