Post by BeepOn 12 Jun 2004 16:45:05 GMT, Lisa Eclipse Astrology
Hi :) It was so nice of you to answer this! I really appreciate it.
No problem! I haven't been on as much lately, lots of stuff going on!
Post by BeepPost by Lisa Eclipse AstrologyI would definitely say spending time with kids is
an excellent way to live out a Leo North Node. If for nothing else, to
learn to play again.
Or maybe for the first time ;)
Didn't think of that!
Post by BeepPost by Lisa Eclipse AstrologyAnother thing Leo rules is anything you will or
create. So, if you decided to create art of any kind, that would also
be a good expression of Leo energy. Also, to do it yourself and not in
groups (Aquarius), right? ;-) And I would think as a Libra with Neptune
very near your Ascendant, art would come quite naturally! :-)
I used to have trouble with art classes in school...I'm not very
eye/hand coordinated. But of course school is a *group* thing! My
nemesis!
Right, but in other lifetimes, it appears to me you mastered (Saturn in
rulership) verbally teaching (3rd house) stuff that required group
consciousness and mental energy (Aquarius), SO this time around you are
supposed to LEARN via intuition (9th house) to do your own thing (Mars)
and be intuitively creative (Leo) - and interestingly, your Mars is
trining Venus in the 1st, so how about that? :-) Oh yeah, the ninth
house has been mentioned on the board here very recently about DREAMS!
Pursue them in your own way! Maybe in other life areas, but in this
area, it is not the place to do other people's rules! :-)
Post by BeepI do like to write, and always thought that would be my artistic
outlet, but I wonder if with SN in 3 (and Saturn) that is such a great
idea.
I am thinking Saturn in rulership in Aquarius with South Node in the 3rd
could have been hard to deal with when you were young (but blasted
Saturn stuff can be a learning with age type of thing). However, now, I
think you can use the Saturn to demonstrate your mastery in this area,
and the South Node emphasizes this even moreso, as it relates to your
past life strengths. The trick is to balance these talents with the
creation process mentioned above! :-) And with Saturn there, major
discipline is at your disposal and I think that is what stops many
writers. Give it a shot Beep! :-)
Post by BeepPost by Lisa Eclipse AstrologyI have to say that when I had kids, they were very unexpected (My 5th
house ruler is Venus, and it is sextile Jupiter and making a quincunx
yod with Uranus!),
Heh!!!
Post by Lisa Eclipse Astrologyand I ended up being a single mother for many many
years. I will say this though, as much as it was hard in the
responsibility area, I never regretted having them.
I probably would have if I had found a partner, had been physically
strong/healthy, OR was ever in a decent financial position. Having
all three of those strikes against me just seemed too much...or maybe
too irresponsible.
As it was for me, my partner at that point was AWFUL and I was destitute
for years financially because of him. And even in the "strong" area, I
think most of my strength is mental, rather than physical! (Two and a
half strikes against me?) But, I also was lucky enough to have lots of
energy, and I was younger too. And, well let's face it, I chose to do
the right thing when unplanned situations arose!
Post by BeepPost by Lisa Eclipse AstrologyBut, I must
confess, as a Capricorn, I really enjoy my kids much more now that they
are older. I like very much who they are becoming and I like seeing
that happen! I would not want the other problem of not being able to
have kids, believe me! :-)
How many do you have? Hope their charts are good :)
Two, and I am glad I didn't know about astrology until after they were
born! I would have tried to control it back then! I realized later
that the Universe is excellent at its own system of timing, and frankly,
I am honored to now spend time with the awesome souls who chose me as
their mother! My son, Aaron July 5, 1988, 6:10pm, and my daughter
Christiana (likes Chrissy) May 19, 1992, 12:58pm, both Pacific Daylight
Time, both in La Mesa, California, extremely close to San Diego. They
(as well as my current husband) are the best things that have ever
happened to me (how First House Cancer North Node is THAT!)
Post by BeepPost by Lisa Eclipse AstrologyAs far as your chart having children of your own, I looked at the 5th
house ruler (I use traditional, so it is Jupiter) and it is in the 4th
house, but conjunct Chiron (wounding) and opposite Uranus in 10th,
squaring the Moon (Motherhood) in 7th. The 10th and 4th usually have to
do with Mother and Father, and 7th is your partner, or what you project
onto others, so it may work that way for you, i.e. other people are the
mothers (Moon) rather than you. I hope that rings true.
That may well be true...I also have in the past attracted men who need
mothering. One had even lost his mother as a small child.
Yeah, probably not the best to have children with a guy that needs a
mother of his own, right (I learned the freakin' hard way!)? And even
if you never have kids and "raise" him, he will eventually want to leave
(men eventually want to leave Mom), so all the work done to "raise" them
how you would want them isn't for the right reasons anyway! Having REAL
children early on was a hard lesson, but it was the true revealer of
what was really happening in the relationship, as he was resentful he
wasn't the only "child" anymore, and I of course felt he should never
have been, and to get it together! No matter, I had Neptune transiting
my 7th at that time (never again!) and I think my kids knew they would
never have me for a mother if something wasn't around making me
virtually unconscious! Hahaha! :-D And, they know what their dad is
made of, and have for years and years without me even telling them, they
are just smart, so go figure! (Remember finances? After the divorce,
Neptune was going through my 8th house for all those years, it FINALLY
made it last year into the 9th, and I really like it there! While it
was in my 8th, though, I finally figured out that I needed to let SPIRIT
help me with my bills instead of trying to do it myself, so when I was
tuned in that way, it wasn't as much of a problem anymore, but I still
like it in the 9th better!).
Post by BeepPost by Lisa Eclipse AstrologyI looked at your sister's chart and funny, I know SO MANY Sun Sign
Gemini women that are having trouble getting pregnant, or are older and
have decided not to be pregnant! I need to look into that a bit
further! Anyway, depending on the house system you use, I have either
Mercury (Koch) or Venus (Whole) as the ruler of the 5th house, and both
of those have very heavy aspects in her chart, but also some good ones.
When loooking at a solar chart for the husband (Sun on Ascendant), I
didn't see any problems with children (some people say Jupiter can rule
children as well). So, maybe it is just a matter of the right time with
them, or the right doctors helping, as surgery (ruled by Mars) is
possible. I wish them luck.
He had some surgery to help with the conception process.
My sister's being told she has "bad eggs" which I gather is very bad
news.
He's got a daughter that my sister adopted, from his previous
marriage...but my sister didn't get to have a baby, or ever be called
"mom", or any of that stuff.
Oh wow! Surgery is not a surprise obviously, but bad eggs? Who would
know (any medical astrologers in da house)? Well, you never know, it
still may happen! It is up to the Universe though, not them! :-) As for
the adopted daughter, she must be older, huh? Does she still see her
real mother?
Post by BeepPost by Lisa Eclipse AstrologyAs far as your mother's chart, you may want to look at her 9th house
ruler (Children of Children?). Check it out!
I will check it out!
Her data btw is November 19, 1933, 10:55 am, Providence, RI.
You'll see she likes Capricorns :)
Yes, I see that! :-) My kind of lady - wehew! Interestingly, it looks
like it is up to the Universe for her to have grandchildren too! Both
harmonious and stressful aspects, an equal shot! Keep us all posted!
Lisa Allen