Temple Grandin

[Raymond Andrews]

Temple Grandin

Temple Grandin (born August 29, 1947) is an American doctor of animal
science and professor at Colorado State University, bestselling
author, and consultant to the livestock industry on animal behavior.
As a person with high-functioning autism, Grandin is also widely noted
for her work in autism advocacy and is the inventor of the hug machine
designed to calm hypersensitive persons.

Grandin is listed in the 2010 Time 100 list of the 100 most
influential people in the world in the category “Heroes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Grandin%2C_Temple


As evolutionary intensified objects, I believe that the energy of the
transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates involve lessons,experiences
that can really make or break you. The hard aspects tend to indicate
the possibility of experiencing some type of trauma which may be
trying to the spirit but can eventually help you to grow spiritually.
What doesn't kill you can make you stronger is something that can be
applied the transneptunian dwarf planets,transneptunian dwarf planet
candidates.

They are highly metaphysical energies that involve
insight,inspiration,and creativity that should be used not just for
your benefit but for the benefit of many others. These energies are
about about going well beyond self and tapping into that mass
consciousness. There is a potential to really make a mark on the world
and affect people on a grand scale.

Their very distant location,their tendency to orbit off the ecliptic
as well as some of them with highly elliptical orbits make them
objects that are divergent from the planets. Therefore, people with
strong transneptunian energies can be divergent from the norm. They
can be quite the nonconformists. I suspect that these are the same
people that can relate to personality types like Indigo,Crystal,Earth
Angel,Lightworker too. The same energies could be prominent in people
with neurodivergences like Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD, Autistic
Spectrum.



I use the following orbs for them:

This is for both regular chart (ecliptic longitude) and Right
Ascension (equatorial longitude)
3'00 for the conjunction,opposition,trine,square (sextile is included
if Midheaven/Imum Coeli,Ascendant/Descendant are involved)
2'00 for the sextile
1'00 for the
semisextile,quincunx,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quintile,biquintile

Declinations (equatorial latitude):
0'30 for the parallel,contraparallel

Main theme aspects: involving only Sun,Moon,Ascendant/
Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli

Both for regular chart (ecliptic longitude) and Right Ascension
(equatorial longitude)
1'00 for the conjunction,opposition,trine,square , (sextile is
included if Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli are involved)

Declinations (equatorial latitude)
0'10 for the parallel,contraparallel



In Evolutionary Astrology, Jeffrey Wolf Green uses the geocentric
planetary nodes for karmic insights. He believes that the south
geocentric planetary nodes have to do with past karmic indicators. He
believes the nodes of Jupiter thru Pluto are collective karmic
indicators. He believes that the south nodes of Jupiter thru Pluto are
past collective karmic indicators.

He talks about planetary nodes in the book that he wrote with Steven
Forrest
MEASURING THE NIGHT:
Evolutionary Astrology and the Keys to the Soul, Volume I
by Steven Forrest and Jeffrey Wolf Green
Chapter Seven: Jeffrey Wolf Green: The Planetary Nodes


I have his Geocentric Planetary Node Workshop DVD. He discusses the
nodes of Jupiter thru Pluto from the Evolutionary Astrology
perspective. He correlates time periods with these nodes. He talks
about Natural Law a lot in the workshop. He talks about the south
nodes as the karmic past.

I extended Jeffrey Wolf Green's concepts on the geocentric planetary
nodes to the heliocentric nodes as well as the nodes of the minor
planets. With his using the nodes of the transneptunian dwarf planet
Pluto, it opens up the possibility that the nodes of Pluto's fellow
transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates,
Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,and Ixion can be used
too. They can be used as collective karmic indicators. I view all of
the transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates as evolutionary intensified
objects,and so they have to do with evolutionary intensification. I
view the nodes of the transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates as
collective karma of evolutionary intensification.


Transneptunian Dwarf Planet/Candidate Nodes
1'30 - conjunction,opposition,trine,square,sextile
1'00 - sextile (geocentric)

Main Theme Aspects - involving only Sun,Moon,Ascendant/
Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli

Dwarf/Candidate Planetary Nodes
0'30 - conjunction,opposition,trine,square
0'30 - sextile if Heliocentric Node or involving Ascendant/
Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli



Birthdata:

August 29, 1947
2:30 PM
Boston, MA




Pluto - transformation,regeneration,power
oppose Moon - '23 - main theme aspect - at odds with emotional
nature,feelings,instincts
trine/sextile Ascendant/Descendant - '42 - main theme aspect - in
harmony/work with persona/relationships

Eris - diversity,equality,discord, controversy
oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli - 2'49 - at odds/merge with aim
in life/domestic environment
quincunx Mercury - '30 - in strain with thoughts,communications

Quaoar - creativity,inspiration
conjunct/oppose Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '58 - main theme aspect - merge/
at odds with aim in life/domestic environment

Ixion - karma,2nd chances
trine Moon - 2'12 - in harmony with emotional
nature,feelings,instincts
square Mars - 1'34 - in friction with assertion,passion,physical drive
sextile/trine Ascendant/Descendant - 1'06 - support/in harmony with
persona/relationships

Haumea - creativity,fertility,female reproductive cycle
semisquare/sesquiquadrate Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '20 - in minor
friction/irritation with aim in life/domestic environment

Makemake - creativity,fertility,male reproductive cycle
biquintile Ascendant - '27- in creative connection with persona
semisquare Venus - '10 - in minor friction with
love,relationships,values

Orcus - oaths,promises
quintile Sun - '34 - in creative connection with ego,self
expression,vitality
quintile Venus - '44 - in creative connection with
love,relationship,values

Varuna - cosmic order,judgment,justice
quintile Mars - '56 - in creative connection with
assertion,passion,physical drive

North Eris Node - collective diversity,equality,controversy,discord
trine Sun - '05 - main theme aspect - in harmony with ego,self
expression,vitality
trine Mercury - '33 - in harmony with thoughts,communications

South Varuna Node - collective cosmic order,judgment,justice
sextile Sun - '14 - support ego,self expression,vitality

North Ixion Node - collective karma,2nd chances
oppose/conjunct Ascendant/Descendant - '47 - at odds/merge with
persona/relationships



Declinations

Haumea - creativity,fertility,female reproductive cycle
parallel Mars - '08 - merge with assertion,passion,physical drive

Ixion - karma,2nd chances
parallel Mercury - '20 - merge with thoughts,communications



Right Ascension

Ixion - karma,2nd chances
trine Moon - '38 - main theme aspect - in harmony with emotional
nature,feelings,instincts

Varuna - cosmic order,judgment,justice
quincunx/semisextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '40 - in strain/minor
support aim in life/domestic environment

Quaoar - creativity,inspiration
sesquiquadrate Moon - '37 - in irritation with emotional
nature,feelings,instincts

Makemake - creativity,fertility,male reproductive cycle
semisquare Mercury - '05 - in minor friction with
thoughts,communications




Main Theme Aspects:

Moon oppose Pluto
Pluto trine/sextile Ascendant/Descendant
Sun trine North Eris Node
Quaoar conjunct/oppose Midheaven
Moon trine Ixion in Right Ascension



Raymond

[Raymond Andrews]

correction:

she has Sun trine South Varuna Node - '14 , and that's a main theme
aspect.

Post by Raymond Andrews
Temple Grandin
Temple Grandin (born August 29, 1947) is an American doctor of animal
science and professor at Colorado State University, bestselling
author, and consultant to the livestock industry on animal behavior.
As a person with high-functioning autism, Grandin is also widely noted
for her work in autism advocacy and is the inventor of the hug machine
designed to calm hypersensitive persons.
Grandin is listed in the 2010 Time 100 list of the 100 most
influential people in the world in the category “Heroeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Grandin%2C_Temple
As evolutionary intensified objects, I believe that the energy of the
transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates involve lessons,experiences
that can really make or break you. The hard aspects tend to indicate
the possibility of experiencing some type of trauma which may be
trying to the spirit but can eventually help you to grow spiritually.
What doesn't kill you can make you stronger is something that can be
applied the transneptunian dwarf planets,transneptunian dwarf planet
candidates.
They are highly metaphysical energies that involve
insight,inspiration,and creativity that should be used not just for
your benefit but for the benefit of many others. These energies are
about about going well beyond self and tapping into that mass
consciousness. There is a potential to really make a mark on the world
and affect people on a grand scale.
Their very distant location,their tendency to orbit off the ecliptic
as well as some of them with highly elliptical orbits make them
objects that are divergent from the planets. Therefore, people with
strong transneptunian energies can be divergent from the norm. They
can be quite the nonconformists. I suspect that these are the same
people that can relate to personality types like Indigo,Crystal,Earth
Angel,Lightworker too. The same energies could be prominent in people
with neurodivergences like Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD, Autistic
Spectrum.
This is for both regular chart (ecliptic longitude) and Right
Ascension (equatorial longitude)
3'00 for the conjunction,opposition,trine,square (sextile is included
if Midheaven/Imum Coeli,Ascendant/Descendant are involved)
2'00 for the sextile
1'00 for the
semisextile,quincunx,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quintile,biquintile
0'30 for the parallel,contraparallel
Main theme aspects: involving only Sun,Moon,Ascendant/
Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli
Both for regular chart (ecliptic longitude) and Right Ascension
(equatorial longitude)
1'00 for the conjunction,opposition,trine,square , (sextile is
included if Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli are involved)
Declinations (equatorial latitude)
0'10 for the parallel,contraparallel
In Evolutionary Astrology, Jeffrey Wolf Green uses the geocentric
planetary nodes for karmic insights. He believes that the south
geocentric planetary nodes have to do with past karmic indicators. He
believes the nodes of Jupiter thru Pluto are collective karmic
indicators. He believes that the south nodes of Jupiter thru Pluto are
past collective karmic indicators.
He talks about planetary nodes in the book that he wrote with Steven
Forrest
Evolutionary Astrology and the Keys to the Soul, Volume I
by Steven Forrest and Jeffrey Wolf Green
Chapter Seven: Jeffrey Wolf Green: The Planetary Nodes
I have his Geocentric Planetary Node Workshop DVD. He discusses the
nodes of Jupiter thru Pluto from the Evolutionary Astrology
perspective. He correlates time periods with these nodes. He talks
about Natural Law a lot in the workshop. He talks about the south
nodes as the karmic past.
I extended Jeffrey Wolf Green's concepts on the geocentric planetary
nodes to the heliocentric nodes as well as the nodes of the minor
planets. With his using the nodes of the transneptunian dwarf planet
Pluto, it opens up the possibility that the nodes of Pluto's fellow
transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates,
Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,and Ixion can be used
too. They can be used as collective karmic indicators. I view all of
the transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates as evolutionary intensified
objects,and so they have to do with evolutionary intensification. I
view the nodes of the transneptunian dwarf planet/candidates as
collective karma of evolutionary intensification.
Transneptunian Dwarf Planet/Candidate Nodes
1'30 - conjunction,opposition,trine,square,sextile
1'00 - sextile (geocentric)
Main Theme Aspects - involving only Sun,Moon,Ascendant/
Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli
Dwarf/Candidate Planetary Nodes
0'30 - conjunction,opposition,trine,square
0'30 - sextile if Heliocentric Node or involving Ascendant/
Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli
August 29, 1947
2:30 PM
Boston, MA
Pluto - transformation,regeneration,power
oppose Moon - '23  - main theme aspect - at odds with emotional
nature,feelings,instincts
trine/sextile Ascendant/Descendant - '42 - main theme aspect - in
harmony/work with persona/relationships
Eris - diversity,equality,discord, controversy
oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli - 2'49 - at odds/merge with aim
in life/domestic environment
quincunx Mercury - '30 - in strain with thoughts,communications
Quaoar - creativity,inspiration
conjunct/oppose Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '58 - main theme aspect - merge/
at odds with aim in life/domestic environment
Ixion - karma,2nd chances
trine Moon - 2'12 - in harmony with emotional
nature,feelings,instincts
square Mars - 1'34 - in friction with assertion,passion,physical drive
sextile/trine Ascendant/Descendant - 1'06 - support/in harmony with
persona/relationships
Haumea - creativity,fertility,female reproductive cycle
semisquare/sesquiquadrate Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '20 - in minor
friction/irritation with aim in life/domestic environment
Makemake - creativity,fertility,male reproductive cycle
biquintile Ascendant - '27- in creative connection with persona
semisquare Venus - '10 - in minor friction with
love,relationships,values
Orcus - oaths,promises
quintile Sun - '34 - in creative connection with ego,self
expression,vitality
quintile Venus - '44 - in creative connection with
love,relationship,values
Varuna - cosmic order,judgment,justice
quintile Mars - '56 - in creative connection with
assertion,passion,physical drive
North Eris Node - collective diversity,equality,controversy,discord
trine Sun - '05 - main theme aspect - in harmony with ego,self
expression,vitality
trine Mercury - '33 - in harmony with thoughts,communications
South Varuna Node - collective cosmic order,judgment,justice
sextile Sun - '14 - support ego,self expression,vitality
North Ixion Node - collective karma,2nd chances
oppose/conjunct Ascendant/Descendant - '47 - at odds/merge with
persona/relationships
Declinations
Haumea - creativity,fertility,female reproductive cycle
parallel Mars - '08 - merge with assertion,passion,physical drive
Ixion - karma,2nd chances
parallel Mercury - '20 - merge with thoughts,communications
Right Ascension
Ixion - karma,2nd chances
trine Moon - '38 - main theme aspect - in harmony with emotional
nature,feelings,instincts
Varuna - cosmic order,judgment,justice
quincunx/semisextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '40 - in strain/minor
support aim in life/domestic environment
Quaoar - creativity,inspiration
sesquiquadrate Moon - '37 - in irritation with emotional
nature,feelings,instincts

correction:

she has Sun trine South Varuna Node - '14, and that's a main theme
aspect.

Post by Raymond Andrews
Makemake - creativity,fertility,male reproductive cycle
semisquare Mercury - '05 - in minor friction with
thoughts,communications
Moon oppose Pluto
Pluto trine/sextile Ascendant/Descendant
Sun trine North Eris Node
Quaoar conjunct/oppose Midheaven
Moon trine Ixion in Right Ascension
Raymond

[A B]

Just to say thanks very much for the birth data. I'm a great fan of Temple
Grandin's work, and will examine the chart as soon as I get the chance.

[Raymond Andrews]

Like her, I am a neurodivergent (Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD). I was once
misidentified as intellectually handicapped and mom was told that I
wouldn't be able to do anything like other children. I was misplaced
with those types in a special education class. Like her, I had early
intervention that included speech therapy. Because of my language/
speech delays,hyper-emotionality,and hypersensitivity, I am similar
to somebody on the autistic spectrum, but I didn't have the hallmark
issues of autistic spectrum which are problems understanding emotional/
social cues. I didn't have the autistic strengths in regards to
strong attention to detail which tends to be weaknesses of
Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD. I have ultrasensitivity like her, but mine
is less extreme. I think mainly in pictures like her, but not in the
way that she does. Autism is at the end of the neurodivergent
spectrum. I was born to neurodivergent parents with vary degrees of
Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD. My father was the more extreme
neurodivergent. My mother and I also believe that he was on the
autistic spectrum.


I have similar regular astrological stuff as her. She and I both have
"peregrine" Uranus. She and I both have Mars square Neptune. She and
I have both have challenging Moon-Saturn aspect (she has the
opposition,and I have the square) She has Pisces 3rd house, and I
have watersign influenced (Mercury and Venus in Scorpio) 3rd house and
Neptune in 3rd square Moon in Pisces. She and I both have Moon-
Neptune aspect (she has the trine,and I have the square).


I also have very strong transneptunian dwarf planet influence. I even
have a Mercury-Eris aspect like she does (she has the quincunx, and I
have the biquintile). She and I have Sun-North Eris Node aspect (she
has trine, I have opposition and I also have conjunction to the South
Eris Node). She and I have Sun-South Varuna Node (she has the
trine,and I have the sextile). She and I have hard aspect of Moon with
a transneptunian dwarf planet/candidate conjunction with Saturn. She
has Moon oppose Saturn-Pluto, and I have Moon square Saturn-Varuna.
She and I both have Eris-Midheaven/Imum Coeli aspect (she has
opposition/conjunction, and I have the sextile/trine). She and I both
have Haumea-Midheaven/Imum Coeli aspects (she has the semisquare/
sesquiquadrate, and I have the square). She and I both have Sun-Orcus
aspects (she has the quintile, and I have the contraparallel.....I
also have a 1 minute biseptile too). She and I both have Moon trine
Ixion. She and I both Moon-Quaoar aspects (she has the
sesquiquadrate,and I have the trine). She and I both have Mercury-
Makemake aspects (she has the semisquare,and I have the square).

She and I were both born on the 29th day. According to Hans Decoz,
people born on the 29th day of the month are ultrasensitive,highly
emotional,idealistic,inspirational, and think in pictures. She has
the same birthday as a former special education student girl that was
my first big crush. She was definitely a neurodivergent, but not as
extreme as Temple Grandin nor me. Her son has ADHD.



Looking at Temple Grandin's chart in regards to neurodivergence helped
me understand my chart.

I definitely believe that there is something with the transneptunian
dwarf planet/candidates that are involved in neurodivergence. That
goes for Pluto too. After all, it's a transneptunian dwarf planet.



I noticed her Moon oppose Saturn-Pluto.

I was afraid that some astrologers would think that her autism was in
connection to trauma and abuse in connection to her family including
especially the mother.
It would fit with how autistics were once thought to have
"refridgerator moms" , and some people still believe that to this very
day.

But this configuration could also fit with her issues with anxiety
which is a fear-based emotional experience. She does takes
antidepressants. She has anxiety from her sensory integration issues.
Neurodivergents are at higher risk for mental health problems like
anxiety and depression compared to neurotypicals (normal neurological
processing people). I am defininitely not an exception neither are my
parents.

Here is an interview with her. She talks about her history of anxiety
and taking antidepressants.
http://www.autism-help.org/story-temple-grandin-autism.htm


Moon oppose Pluto can be ultrasensitive emotionally. It also fits with
the obsessive traits that fit with autistic spectrum. Moon oppose
Saturn fits with rigidity that fits with autistic spectrum too. Her
Moon in Aquarius fits with being unconventional,weird. It also fits
with the ridigity with Aquarius being a fixed sign and being
traditionally ruled by Saturn. Her Sun-Mercury-Venus in Virgo would
indicate a strong emphasis on paying attention to detail. Furthermore,
her close Sun-Mercury conjunction can indicate a person with a high
degree of mental activity. Obviously her Sun-Mercury-Venus
conjunction doesn't necessarily indicate a strong natural social
skills ability. Of course, an astrologer could say that Venus in its
fall position, Virgo could indicate problems with social skills. She
was raised to have good manners. She believes that anybody could have
good manners whether he/she is neurotypical or neurodivergent.


I think that a neurodivergent's chart may need to be looked at
differently from a neurotypical's chart. That's just my opinion. Of
course, it would also apply to me too because I am neurodivergent. I
am not on the autistic spectrum though.


I noticed that astro.com has her listed under people that have a
defect, handicapped. Temple Grandin doesn't see herself that way.
She has the neurodiversity view of autism and other neurodivergent
conditions. She even said that the world needs all types of minds.

She's a strong believer in genetic autism. She believes that autism
like hers is genetic.
She believes that low functioning type of autism is caused by
environmental insults. She's open to the idea that vaccines can
cause forms of autism.



Some people assume that because she's high functioning including has
great language abilities and highly intelligenct, she has Aspergers
Syndrome. That's not the case. She did have delays in speech that
were corrected with speech therapy. She is highly ultrasensitive to
the point that she has problems with people touching her.

Sensory integration/processing issues are said to be common in up to
70 percent of people with learning disabilities (I prefer to use the
term, learning differences to differentiate from the way the UK use
the term for intellectually handicapped). It is said that the highest
contributors of sensory integration/processing issues are Autism and
ADHD.



Raymond

[A B]

I have similar regular astrological stuff as [Temple Grandin]. She and I
both have
"peregrine" Uranus. She and I both have Mars square Neptune. She and
I have both have challenging Moon-Saturn aspect (she has the
opposition,and I have the square) She has Pisces 3rd house, and I
have watersign influenced (Mercury and Venus in Scorpio) 3rd house and
Neptune in 3rd square Moon in Pisces. She and I both have Moon-
Neptune aspect (she has the trine,and I have the square).

I have mild Asperger's syndrome and OCD/Tourette's syndrome. I think in
pictures too. I have Moon square Saturn and Mercury in 3rd (in Virgo), but
I don't recognise the water-sign stuff offhand. I suppose neurodivergence
varies so much that you wouldn't expect all the same indications.

In a bit of a hurry now, but will reply to the rest of your posting if I
have time.

[Kjell Pettersson]

I have similar regular astrological stuff as [Temple Grandin].  She and I
both have
"peregrine" Uranus.  She and I both have Mars square Neptune. She and
I have both have challenging Moon-Saturn aspect (she has the
opposition,and I have the square)  She has Pisces 3rd house, and I
have watersign influenced (Mercury and Venus in Scorpio) 3rd house and
Neptune in 3rd square Moon in Pisces.  She and I both have Moon-
Neptune aspect (she has the trine,and I have the square).

I have mild Asperger's syndrome and OCD/Tourette's syndrome.  I think in
pictures too.

Does anyone of you have an idea of what an astrological signature for
that could look like? I am inclined to think the Moon would be
involved for "pictures", but then I get stuck. Thinking in pictures is
not only a significator for np-conditions, but is also often found in
creative and highly intellectual people. (Which, I realize, could very
well be Asperger's Syndrome, but anyhow.)

/Kjell