Charts for Earthquakes in Chile in 1647 and 2010

[Hermes]

I have plotted charts for the epicenters of these two earthquakes,
based on data mainly from Wikipedia:

1647
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/NWnVgHpFQTgQ7_ySmHGebg?feat=directlink

2010
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hMYDWSGsf9h9_qcKgH_hmQ?feat=directlink

Wikipedia link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_Chile

Date: 1647-05-13 / 2010-2-27
Time UTC: 19:30 / 03:34
Magnitude: 8.5 / 8.4
Epicenter: 35*S 72*W / 35*49S 72*40'W (both rel. near Santiago)

I have used the Gregorian Calendar for the 1647 earthquake:

* Spain adopted the [Gregorian Calendar] in 1582,
* and the Spanish territories in the New World rapidly
* followed Spain’s example.
-- https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Chile_History

I was aware of the 1647 earthquake because I had just given a few days
ago a booklet with a very short novel by Heinrich von Kleist about the
earthquake in 1647 to my father. (I had mentioned that short story
before on Usenet, after the tsunami in Asia, at a.a.t.)

[Kleist's short novel translated to English]
http://www.viceland.com/int/v15n12/htdocs/earthquake-in-chile-kleist-441.php

[Original text in German]
http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/?id=12&xid=1463&kapitel=1&cHash=bd3ee19d6a2

Anyway, I do not see much correlation between the charts, or am I
missing something? For all that it appears an earthquake has been "in
the air" recently...

)o+

[Richard Nolle]

Post by Hermes
I have plotted charts for the epicenters of these two earthquakes,
1647
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/NWnVgHpFQTgQ7_ySmHGebg?feat=directlink
2010
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hMYDWSGsf9h9_qcKgH_hmQ?feat=directlink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_Chile
Date: 1647-05-13 / 2010-2-27
Time UTC: 19:30 / 03:34
Magnitude: 8.5 / 8.4
Epicenter: 35*S 72*W / 35*49S 72*40'W (both rel. near Santiago)
* Spain adopted the [Gregorian Calendar] in 1582,
* and the Spanish territories in the New World rapidly
* followed Spain’s example.
-- https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Chile_History
I was aware of the 1647 earthquake because I had just given a few days
ago a booklet with a very short novel by Heinrich von Kleist about the
earthquake in 1647 to my father. (I had mentioned that short story
before on Usenet, after the tsunami in Asia, at a.a.t.)
[Kleist's short novel translated to English]
http://www.viceland.com/int/v15n12/htdocs/earthquake-in-chile-kleist-441.php
[Original text in German]
http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/?id=12&xid=1463&kapitel=1&cHash=bd3ee19d6a2
Anyway, I do not see much correlation between the charts, or am I
missing something? For all that it appears an earthquake has been "in
the air" recently...
)o+

Thanks for an interesting set of resources, Alain!

[Edmond H. Wollmann]

Post by Hermes
I have plotted charts for the epicenters of these two earthquakes,
  1647
 http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/NWnVgHpFQTgQ7_ySmHGebg?feat=dire...
  2010
 http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hMYDWSGsf9h9_qcKgH_hmQ?feat=dire...
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_Chile
Date: 1647-05-13 / 2010-2-27
Time UTC: 19:30 / 03:34
Magnitude: 8.5 / 8.4
Epicenter: 35*S 72*W / 35*49S 72*40'W (both rel. near Santiago)
* Spain adopted the [Gregorian Calendar] in 1582,
* and the Spanish territories in the New World rapidly
* followed Spain’s example.
--https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Chile_History
I was aware of the 1647 earthquake because I had just given a few days
ago a booklet with a very short novel by Heinrich von Kleist about the
earthquake in 1647 to my father. (I had mentioned that short story
before on Usenet, after the tsunami in Asia, at a.a.t.)
  [Kleist's short novel translated to English]
 http://www.viceland.com/int/v15n12/htdocs/earthquake-in-chile-kleist-...
  [Original text in German]
 http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/?id=12&xid=1463&kapitel=1&cHash=bd3ee19d6a2
Anyway, I do not see much correlation between the charts, or am I
missing something? For all that it appears an earthquake has been "in
the air" recently...
)o+

The "Earthquakes in the air" aspect is the Pluto, Uranus and Saturn T-
Square that will be waxing and waning (along with Jupiter later) for
quite some time through 2015. This de-structurizing configuration will
reflect both the geologic and social and economic restructuring that
will leave the world dramatically altered over the next few years.

Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
(c) 2010 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.e-wollmann.com/
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/

[Hermes]

Post by Edmond H. Wollmann
The "Earthquakes in the air" aspect is the Pluto, Uranus and Saturn T-
Square that will be waxing and waning (along with Jupiter later) for
quite some time through 2015. This de-structurizing configuration will
reflect both the geologic and social and economic restructuring that
will leave the world dramatically altered over the next few years.
Looks like the first one had Uranus opposition Pluto!

Yes, the first chart has also Neptune conjunct Uranus and opposite
Pluto, but overall still does not look all too compulsory to me, at
least in the sense of being able to predict anything beyond a time
frame of years or only to prove a correlation afterwards.

But let me say something about the upcoming t-square, from the naive
standpoint of someone who has neither looked much at charts for the
upcoming years nor read any of the "2012 books" nor any kind of
astrological articles about this time frame, instead just from Pluto
in Capricorn t-square Saturn in Libra and Uranus in Aries:

The opponents in the oppositions are at a "clash of titans", two
earthy titans of the pre-Olympian generation. Pluto is Olympian,
overthrew together with Zeus/Jupiter and Poseidon/Neptune the old
Cronos/Saturn who had in turn killed his father Ouranos/Uranus before.
Uranus and Saturn each see an opponent (opposition aspect) who will
almost certainly disagree and hardly give in with regard to most
issues. And each of them sees Pluto at a square. Pluto, in turn, sees
two planets at a square and their tensions will almost always balance
each other (since those two are in opposition). So Pluto, as long has
he remains strong and hard enough (which should be almost a given for
Pluto in Capricorn), will be able to decide which way to go, often
between going back to old/traditional/conservative approaches and new
ones. There is great opportunity in that in my perspective. I
personally always like the time between Xmas and New Year, when the
sun is in Capricorn. The hardness, pragmatism and ability to plan
things make it possible for Capricorn to be almost whatever is needed
at a time, like despite being a cardinal sign also to be fixed or
mutable when necessary, etc. Of course, Uranus and Saturn will not
give in without pressure, but in each case in which Pluto decides,
say, to go with Saturn in Libra, Uranus in Aries will have two planets
against him and have to give in to overwhelming force, and vice-versa.
It is a situation a bit like the character "Gemini" in the Batman
comics, a guy with sort of a Janus head (Janus-January-most of
Capricorn), with one side of his face distorted by an accident, the
other side normal. He usually throws a coin at the beginning of each
episode, and depending on the outcome helps the good guys or the bad
guys in the episode. The element of luck is already part of Capricorn
(oracles), but also might be brought in by Zeus/Jupiter later in the
grand square. Jupiter is of the same generation as Pluto, and the
opposition of early 2001 was quite swift and effortless as far as I
remember, certainly in relation to the subsequent Pluto-Saturn
opposition of 2001-02.

Of course, I may have overlooked many things, but to me there is to
first order a lot of opportunity in this constellation.

By the way, if I was "king of the world" and would feel like deciding
today like Pluto in Capricorn what to do with astrology, I might do
this by 2020:
a) Eliminate "myself", i.e. Pluto, from all charts by default, i.e. by
default show only sun, moon, Mercury-Neptune, and the nodes; anything
else (smaller objects and points) only from case to case, and
especially in the case of Pluto for historical charts (i.e. charts for
people/events before 2020).
b) Remove rulerships of signs from Uranus and Neptune (and of course
from Pluto), i.e. essentially go back to the traditional system of
dignities; still draw aspects to Uranus and Neptune, consider them as
essentially "aquarian" (as in Age of Aquarius), as collective,
progressive trends of the time, in both a conscious and a rather
unconscious variant (which is, of course, not a new concept, but make
that the standard by 2020).
c) Probably leave the rest as is, no need to change more than
absolutely necessary :)

)o+

--
http://www.exactphilosophy.net/
http://www.google.com/profiles/alain.stalder.ch

[Edmond H. Wollmann]

Post by Hermes
I have plotted charts for the epicenters of these two earthquakes,
  1647
 http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/NWnVgHpFQTgQ7_ySmHGebg?feat=dire...
  2010
 http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hMYDWSGsf9h9_qcKgH_hmQ?feat=dire...
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_Chile
Date: 1647-05-13 / 2010-2-27
Time UTC: 19:30 / 03:34
Magnitude: 8.5 / 8.4
Epicenter: 35*S 72*W / 35*49S 72*40'W (both rel. near Santiago)
* Spain adopted the [Gregorian Calendar] in 1582,
* and the Spanish territories in the New World rapidly
* followed Spain’s example.
--https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Chile_History
I was aware of the 1647 earthquake because I had just given a few days
ago a booklet with a very short novel by Heinrich von Kleist about the
earthquake in 1647 to my father. (I had mentioned that short story
before on Usenet, after the tsunami in Asia, at a.a.t.)
  [Kleist's short novel translated to English]
 http://www.viceland.com/int/v15n12/htdocs/earthquake-in-chile-kleist-...
  [Original text in German]
 http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/?id=12&xid=1463&kapitel=1&cHash=bd3ee19d6a2
Anyway, I do not see much correlation between the charts, or am I
missing something? For all that it appears an earthquake has been "in
the air" recently...
)o+

Looks like the first one had Uranus opposition Pluto!

Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
(c) 2010 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.e-wollmann.com/
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/