Prince William's wedding chart

[A B]

Prince William's wedding to Kate Middleton is to be on the 29th of April
2011, all things being equal:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=j3kfilelsy6R2-u1293483817&lang=e&nhor=3&nho2=1&btyp=2&hsy=2&fix=1&ast=2156%2C1763
(I've thrown in the main fixed stars and a couple of asteroids, just for
completeness' sake).

Here are my comments on the chart. Sorry it took so long.
It's a funny-looking chart - Moon, Mer, Ven, Mar, Jup & Ura within 30
degrees, all except the Moon in Aries. Rather an explosive chart for a
wedding, I'd have thought. (Though this is my first ever wedding chart, so
I may be talking through my hat). But this being the wedding that it is,
there's more involved than simply the relationship. The stellium might sit
rather more comfortably with other aspects of the event. Taking Kjell's
suggestion of 11:00 - 14:00 for the time, the stellium could be in 8th, 9th
or both (Equal House), with Moon & Ura possibly in 7th.

I can't see how the 8th could be appropriate. They don't appear to be
marrying for money (no more than usual, anyway), and one hopes there'll be
no deaths or ghosts! The 9th looks more promising. In ordinary event
charts, a loaded 9th seems to go with events that catch the public's
imagination. The happy couple may be in for even more hoo-ha than Royal
Weddings usually get. That said, Prince William's parents' wedding was
about as huge a public festival as a wedding could be, and there was nothing
in the 9th then except Mars (and possibly the Moon). Incidentally, asteroid
Diana in that chart is conjunct the Sun and NN, and the Moon (another Diana)
is on the Midheaven and in Cancer. Prince Charles's supposedly low-key
second wedding (which still drew massive public interest), to Camilla
Parker-Bowles, had the Sun, Venus, NN and Moon in the 9th - along with
asteroid Camilla, conjunct the Sun and NN!

With Mar, Jup, Mer & Ura involved, some kind of novelty or surprise seems
likely to gain headlines - could anyone suggest more detail? Some kind of
upheaval connected with religion or foreign countries, the 9th's other
connotations, is also a possibility.

If the Sun isn't also in the 9th, it's in the 10th, another good placing for
a state occasion. It also has the only easy aspect in the chart, a trine to
Pluto. The other aspects are ugly - a T-square between Mercury and Venus,
Saturn, and Pluto, with a prickle of minor aspects to aggravate matters. If
I didn't know better than to predict on no experience, I'd almost think they
wouldn't be married that day.

Regulus is nowhere particular. Its only close aspect is a long-running
opposition to Neptune. Speaking of astrological small fry, asteroid Kate is
exactly conjunct Neptune, and probably in the 7th. There is no asteroid
William, and asteroid Williams isn't doing much.

All comments welcome!

[Sharon]

Post by A B
Prince William's wedding to Kate Middleton is to be on the 29th of April
2011, all things being equal:http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=j3kfilelsy6R2-u1293483817&lang...
(I've thrown in the main fixed stars and a couple of asteroids, just for
completeness' sake).
Here are my comments on the chart.  Sorry it took so long.
It's a funny-looking chart - Moon, Mer, Ven, Mar, Jup & Ura within 30
degrees, all except the Moon in Aries.  Rather an explosive chart for a
wedding, I'd have thought.  (Though this is my first ever wedding chart, so
I may be talking through my hat).  But this being the wedding that it is,
there's more involved than simply the relationship.  The stellium might sit
rather more comfortably with other aspects of the event.  Taking Kjell's
suggestion of 11:00 - 14:00 for the time, the stellium could be in 8th, 9th
or both (Equal House), with Moon & Ura possibly in 7th.
I can't see how the 8th could be appropriate.  They don't appear to be
marrying for money (no more than usual, anyway), and one hopes there'll be
no deaths or ghosts!  The 9th looks more promising.  In ordinary event
charts, a loaded 9th seems to go with events that catch the public's
imagination.  The happy couple may be in for even more hoo-ha than Royal
Weddings usually get.  That said, Prince William's parents' wedding was
about as huge a public festival as a wedding could be, and there was nothing
in the 9th then except Mars (and possibly the Moon).  Incidentally, asteroid
Diana in that chart is conjunct the Sun and NN, and the Moon (another Diana)
is on the Midheaven and in Cancer.  Prince Charles's supposedly low-key
second wedding (which still drew massive public interest), to Camilla
Parker-Bowles, had the Sun, Venus, NN and Moon in the 9th - along with
asteroid Camilla, conjunct the Sun and NN!
With Mar, Jup, Mer & Ura involved, some kind of novelty or surprise seems
likely to gain headlines - could anyone suggest more detail?  Some kind of
upheaval connected with religion or foreign countries, the 9th's other
connotations, is also a possibility.
If the Sun isn't also in the 9th, it's in the 10th, another good placing for
a state occasion.  It also has the only easy aspect in the chart, a trine to
Pluto.  The other aspects are ugly - a T-square between Mercury and Venus,
Saturn, and Pluto, with a prickle of minor aspects to aggravate matters.  If
I didn't know better than to predict on no experience, I'd almost think they
wouldn't be married that day.
Regulus is nowhere particular.  Its only close aspect is a long-running
opposition to Neptune.  Speaking of astrological small fry, asteroid Kate is
exactly conjunct Neptune, and probably in the 7th.  There is no asteroid
William, and asteroid Williams isn't doing much.
All comments welcome!
--
A. B.
My e-mail address is zen177395 at  zendotcodotuk, though I don't check that
account very often.

My goodness, that really is an ugly chart for a wedding. Saturn is
strong in Libra and opposing the planets in the 8th, Moon and Uranus
are conjunct, Pluto down there in the 5th squaring everything. What
comes to mind is the possibility of some sort of public uprising or
violence. Definitly problematic. Traditional ruler Jupiter of the 7th
ruling weddings is opposed by Saturn, and modern ruler Uranus conjunct
the Moon...I wonder if the wedding will happen at all.
S

[Kjell Pettersson]

Post by Sharon
My goodness, that really is an ugly chart for a wedding. Saturn is
strong in Libra and opposing the planets in the 8th, Moon and Uranus
are conjunct, Pluto down there in the 5th squaring everything. What
comes to mind is the possibility of some sort of public uprising or
violence. Definitly problematic. Traditional ruler Jupiter of the 7th
ruling weddings is opposed by Saturn, and modern ruler Uranus conjunct
the Moon...I wonder if the wedding will happen at all.
S

A.B. mentioned the possibility of a crowded eight house, and we have a
chart with plenty of squares and oppositions of malefic nature. Your
post makes me think that it is possible that the wedding will be not
like ordinary (royal) weddings, if it comes into being.

Considering the age of the Queen, if anything would happen to
seriously threaten her health, or if she were to pass away before the
wedding, this may put the wedding guests in black, or make the wedding
itself be postponed. It may also put the question of succession on the
table, which may confuse matters even further.

Makes me wonder what goes on in the chart of the Queen. I'll take a
look and see if anything in particular can be found.

[Kjell Pettersson]

Post by Kjell Pettersson
Makes me wonder what goes on in the chart of the Queen. I'll take a
look and see if anything in particular can be found.

For whomever might want to check out the chart, here it is:

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Elizabeth_II%2C_Queen_of_England

[LibraLove]

Post by Sharon

Post by A B
Prince William's wedding to Kate Middleton is to be on the 29th of April
2011, all things being equal:http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=j3kfilelsy6R2-u1293483817〈...
(I've thrown in the main fixed stars and a couple of asteroids, just for
completeness' sake).
Here are my comments on the chart.  Sorry it took so long.
It's a funny-looking chart - Moon, Mer, Ven, Mar, Jup & Ura within 30
degrees, all except the Moon in Aries.  Rather an explosive chart for a
wedding, I'd have thought.  (Though this is my first ever wedding chart, so
I may be talking through my hat).  But this being the wedding that it is,
there's more involved than simply the relationship.  The stellium might sit
rather more comfortably with other aspects of the event.  Taking Kjell's
suggestion of 11:00 - 14:00 for the time, the stellium could be in 8th, 9th
or both (Equal House), with Moon & Ura possibly in 7th.
I can't see how the 8th could be appropriate.  They don't appear to be
marrying for money (no more than usual, anyway), and one hopes there'll be
no deaths or ghosts!  The 9th looks more promising.  In ordinary event
charts, a loaded 9th seems to go with events that catch the public's
imagination.  The happy couple may be in for even more hoo-ha than Royal
Weddings usually get.  That said, Prince William's parents' wedding was
about as huge a public festival as a wedding could be, and there was nothing
in the 9th then except Mars (and possibly the Moon).  Incidentally, asteroid
Diana in that chart is conjunct the Sun and NN, and the Moon (another Diana)
is on the Midheaven and in Cancer.  Prince Charles's supposedly low-key
second wedding (which still drew massive public interest), to Camilla
Parker-Bowles, had the Sun, Venus, NN and Moon in the 9th - along with
asteroid Camilla, conjunct the Sun and NN!
With Mar, Jup, Mer & Ura involved, some kind of novelty or surprise seems
likely to gain headlines - could anyone suggest more detail?  Some kind of
upheaval connected with religion or foreign countries, the 9th's other
connotations, is also a possibility.
If the Sun isn't also in the 9th, it's in the 10th, another good placing for
a state occasion.  It also has the only easy aspect in the chart, a trine to
Pluto.  The other aspects are ugly - a T-square between Mercury and Venus,
Saturn, and Pluto, with a prickle of minor aspects to aggravate matters.  If
I didn't know better than to predict on no experience, I'd almost think they
wouldn't be married that day.
Regulus is nowhere particular.  Its only close aspect is a long-running
opposition to Neptune.  Speaking of astrological small fry, asteroid Kate is
exactly conjunct Neptune, and probably in the 7th.  There is no asteroid
William, and asteroid Williams isn't doing much.
All comments welcome!
--
A. B.
My e-mail address is zen177395 at  zendotcodotuk, though I don't check that
account very often.

My goodness, that really is an ugly chart for a wedding. Saturn is
strong in Libra and opposing the planets in the 8th, Moon and Uranus
are conjunct, Pluto down there in the 5th squaring everything. What
comes to mind is the possibility of some sort of public uprising or
violence. Definitly problematic. Traditional ruler Jupiter of the 7th
ruling weddings is opposed by Saturn, and modern ruler Uranus conjunct
the Moon...I wonder if the wedding will happen at all.
S

Hi Guys and Gals!

Yes, this chart is absolutely dreadful. The Magi Society would hate it
with all the Saturn clashes with Sun, Venus, Mercury and Pluto! Then
Juno right smack dab on the ASC. :( There are issues in this chart
that indicate problems bearing children or loss of children. Then it
is a 'binary' love with Uranus conj Venus. It is either "on or off",
nothing smooth running about it. Exciting, but that gets old pretty
fast.

I've been out of the astro-loop lately writing a screenplay, but I
would definitely like to see what therir synastry is like. I am
assuming their birth data is here somewhere. Need to get to work, but
back later to see what you folks have noticed.

LL

[Kjell Pettersson]

Post by A B
Prince William's wedding to Kate Middleton is to be on the 29th of April
2011, all things being equal:http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=j3kfilelsy6R2-u1293483817&lang...
(I've thrown in the main fixed stars and a couple of asteroids, just for
completeness' sake).

Let's hope that the time of marriage will NOT be 14.00 hrs, for I see
in the chart you have put up that MC is conjunct Algol then. I would
not want to see them beheaded, like once the French were.

[Kjell Pettersson]

On Dec 31 2010, 4:11 pm, Kjell Pettersson

Post by Kjell Pettersson
Let's hope that the time of marriage will NOT be 14.00 hrs, for I see
in the chart you have put up that MC is conjunct Algol then. I would
not want to see them beheaded, like once the French were.

We have been speaking about the fixed star Regulus, but perhaps it
could be relevant to say a few words on Algol as well, as it may have
been involved in at least one of our current examples (Stockholm
terrorist), and in a way also to the British monarchy recently. Let's
start with the terrorist in this post, and I shall focus only on what
matters to an Algol view on things.

The suicide bombing occured on the 12th of December, 2010. The next
day, if my calculations are correct, Neptune would be in an exact
square to Algol. The terrorist bomber himself had Pluto, in Libra, in
an exact trine to transiting Neptune.

Neptune, aggravated by the square to Algol, must unburden itself of
this disturbing influence somehow. Trines are excellent for that
purpose, and people being ”walking transits”, the suicide bomber's
Pluto provides an excellent outlet. Not only are trines excellent for
providing outlets, Pluto is also a fitting planet to receive this
”overflowing” as its key-words and imagery is the planetary symbolism
closest to Algol.

However, Algol itself is not involved with the suicide bomber's chart
directly, and he also does not manage to create the mayhem he seeks
to. He is transformed into the martyr (natal Pluto trine transit
Neptune) that he seeks to become, but not the mass murderer (Pluto
*inconjunct* Algol).

The original thread about the terrorist bombing, containing both the
event data and the birth data of the terrorist:

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/browse_frm/thread/e5039905be212376#

[Kjell Pettersson]

Post by Kjell Pettersson
I would
not want to see them beheaded, like once the French were.

Only days before the suicide bombing in Stockholm, the Prince of Wales
and the Duchess of Cornwall were attacked by a mob when on their way
to a charity. It was some kind of student protest in which anarchistic
elements took part (if I have understood things correctly), and when
they spotted the royals, in a Rolls-Royce no less, they started
attacking the car in various ways.

The rioters also yelled ”Off with their heads”. Well, if that is not
Algol speaking, I don't know what.

At the event, Neptune was ”within exactness” of a square (that is, the
orb maximally 3 minutes).

I do not have an exact time for the event, but according to my
estimates it should be close to 19.25 on Thursday the ninth of
December (more likely later than earlier I think). If that time is
correct, the Leo Ascendant at the fourth degree is antiscion Algol.

Otherwise it is much like the chart for the suicide bomber in
Stockholm, only that the Moon is in early Aquarius, square Venus in
Scorpio.

Though not related to this event, it is of interest to note that the
Queen of England has her IC on Algol. I do not know the details of the
British Royal family, but one would like to know if the Queen has any
beheaded ancestors.

[Kjell Pettersson]

On Dec 31 2010, 4:11 pm, Kjell Pettersson

Post by Kjell Pettersson
like once the French were.

I did a quick check on royals with Algol connections (then they can
work double duty if needed for a Regulus example) and found Maria
Theresa, empress and mother of Marie Antoinette, one of the more
famous beheaded historical persons. Even if she would not be the most
famous beheaded person, she most certainly comes out first when it
comes to politeness towards executioners. Her final words before being
executed by guillotine were directed towards the executioner, whose
foot she had accidentally stepped upon: "Monsieur, I beg your
pardon."

I found the chart for Marie Antoinette, but I did not find any
particular clue there. Well, progressed Lilith (BML) is upon Algol,
that may count for something. Actually, another name for Algol is
Lilith.

However, Maria Theresa proved an example not only of Algol but also of
derivatory chart reading.

The Empress has the Sun on Algol, more or less conjunct the cusp of
the twelfth house. The twelfth house is the eight of the fifth. The
fifth is about your offspring, the eight of the fifth would then
concern the nature of death for the offspring.

It is not, however, an example that could work to prove anything about
astrology as the Empress had some sixteen or eighteen children all in
all, and they were not all beheaded, I am sure. Still, I think it is a
rather clear example of both Algol and derivatory house reading.


Maria Theresa, Empress
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Maria_Therese%2C_Empress

Marie Antoinette, Queen Consort
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Marie_Antoinette%2CQueen_Consort


Francis I, Holy Roman Emperor, born 8 Dec, 1708, Nancy Lorraine (now
France), time unknown (the chart at astro.com is the wrong Francis I):
Algol at 23 TAU, square Uranus at 23 LEO

However, Francis I died in 1765, so it is not a given that his chart
should reflect events decades after his death.