Discussion:
If you found a correlation, what would you do with it?
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unknown
2011-12-11 13:17:53 UTC
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Suppose somebody managed to prove a really firm statistical correlation
between some phenomenon and features in a Birth Chart. For instance, if
people with certain aspects were much more or less likely to develop a
certain medical condition. What practical use could you make of that
information? I mean, you can't go back and change the chart, can you?
Ideas welcome. Reason I ask is I'm plunging into research again, as soon as
I've got the programming sorted out.
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Kjell Pettersson
2012-01-04 22:38:20 UTC
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Regardless of whether the correlation is astrological or not, I think
it would be valuable to know, say, that you are prone to heart
problems. If so, you can change your diet and lifestyle in an
appropriate manner. If your parents and a lot of other relatives had
cancer, that would also signal to me that changing some things may be
more beneficial than changing others.

Having a focus for how and where to seek to implement changes is
likely to lead to more adequate changes being made, over-all leading
to a better health in the long run.

Of course, "a healthy lifestyle" is pretty much the same, but there
would still be differences in priorities.

/K
Post by unknown
Suppose somebody managed to prove a really firm statistical correlation
between some phenomenon and features in a Birth Chart.  For instance, if
people with certain aspects were much more or less likely to develop a
certain medical condition.  What practical use could you make of that
information?  I mean, you can't go back and change the chart, can you?
Ideas welcome.  Reason I ask is I'm plunging into research again, as soon as
I've got the programming sorted out.
--
A. B.><>
My e-mail address is zen177395 at  zendotcodotuk, though I don't check that
account very often.
Post unto others as you would have them post unto you.
Kjell Pettersson
2012-01-06 15:53:01 UTC
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Assuming an astrologer could give advice that was health-related
without being incarcerated I think one possible way of giving advice
based upon astrology, and upon knowing what possible diseases were
indicated by a person's chart, would be through diet advice.

I have read about an animal (sorry, don't remember what animal) that
eats of an herb known to have a medical effect only when it is sick,
but not touching it otherwise. We humans have surely lost this capacity
—the price of civilization—, but I think we could substitute instinct
with knowledge here. You would counter the signature of the disease
with the signature of a plant with medical properties, or perhaps with
an entire "diet signature". I know too little about Hippocrates, but
perhaps some ideas could be gleaned there? He was pro-astrology and he
was pro-diet.

/K
Post by Kjell Pettersson
Regardless of whether the correlation is astrological or not, I think
it would be valuable to know, say, that you are prone to heart
problems. If so, you can change your diet and lifestyle in an
appropriate manner. If your parents and a lot of other relatives had
cancer, that would also signal to me that changing some things may be
more beneficial than changing others.
Having a focus for how and where to seek to implement changes is
likely to lead to more adequate changes being made, over-all leading
to a better health in the long run.
Of course, "a healthy lifestyle" is pretty much the same, but there
would still be differences in priorities.
/K
Post by unknown
Suppose somebody managed to prove a really firm statistical correlation
between some phenomenon and features in a Birth Chart.  For instance, if
people with certain aspects were much more or less likely to develop a
certain medical condition.  What practical use could you make of that
information?  I mean, you can't go back and change the chart, can you?
Ideas welcome.  Reason I ask is I'm plunging into research again, as soon as
I've got the programming sorted out.
--
A. B.><>
My e-mail address is zen177395 at  zendotcodotuk, though I don't check that
account very often.
Post unto others as you would have them post unto you.
unknown
2012-01-15 14:10:29 UTC
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I think you're right about being able to take precautions - of course anyone
should get plenty of exercise whether they're prone to heart disease or not,
but in practice it does concentrate people's minds a bit! And of course
some precautions (statins/B vitamins) WOULDN'T apply to people at no
particular risk. Anyway, scientists are always interested in other
indications of being at risk of a disease, so obviously they think they're
of use.

Relating illnesses to foods or medicinal herbs by astrological signature
sounds like great fun, if it could be got working. The associations of
plants would need research; the books all seem to disagree on those. Hmm, I
wonder how you'd do an experiment into that? I don't quite know where to
find out what Hippocrates had to say.

There'd also be plenty of mileage in any indicator of whether someone might
react well or badly to a certain medical drug. The geneticists used to
promise definitive tests for all that, but I don't think they've got far
yet.

If children with certain chart features reliably had a higher risk of
trouble at school, that might possibly be an argument for educating them at
home in the first place...
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Post by Kjell Pettersson
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Post by Kjell Pettersson
Assuming an astrologer could give advice that was health-related
without being incarcerated I think one possible way of giving advice
based upon astrology, and upon knowing what possible diseases were
indicated by a person's chart, would be through diet advice.
I have read about an animal (sorry, don't remember what animal) that
eats of an herb known to have a medical effect only when it is sick,
but not touching it otherwise. We humans have surely lost this capacity
—the price of civilization—, but I think we could substitute instinct
with knowledge here. You would counter the signature of the disease
with the signature of a plant with medical properties, or perhaps with
an entire "diet signature". I know too little about Hippocrates, but
perhaps some ideas could be gleaned there? He was pro-astrology and he
was pro-diet.
Post by Kjell Pettersson
Regardless of whether the correlation is astrological or not, I think
it would be valuable to know, say, that you are prone to heart
problems. If so, you can change your diet and lifestyle in an
appropriate manner. If your parents and a lot of other relatives had
cancer, that would also signal to me that changing some things may be
more beneficial than changing others.
Having a focus for how and where to seek to implement changes is
likely to lead to more adequate changes being made, over-all leading
to a better health in the long run.
Of course, "a healthy lifestyle" is pretty much the same, but there
would still be differences in priorities.
/K
Post by unknown
Suppose somebody managed to prove a really firm statistical correlation
between some phenomenon and features in a Birth Chart. For instance, if
people with certain aspects were much more or less likely to develop a
certain medical condition. What practical use could you make of that
information? I mean, you can't go back and change the chart, can you?
Ideas welcome. Reason I ask is I'm plunging into research again, as
soon as
I've got the programming sorted out.
Kjell Pettersson
2012-01-16 06:53:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by unknown
Relating illnesses to foods or medicinal herbs by astrological signature
sounds like great fun, if it could be got working.  The associations of
plants would need research; the books all seem to disagree on those.
I was not aware of any greater disagreement in this area. Do you think
of anything in particular?
Post by unknown
Hmm, I
wonder how you'd do an experiment into that?
There already exists a lot of folk lore regarding medicine that HAS
been used by pharmaceutical companies. Investigating what has been
used, and for what purposes, would surely indicate how to
astrologically classify the plant in question. Then there are also
those plants that are not used (because they would yield no particular
profit, not being possible to protect by patent) in orthodox medicine,
but whose properties are known. S:t John's Wort, for instance.
Post by unknown
 I don't quite know where to
find out what Hippocrates had to say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Corpus

I am not certain it would be necessary to investigate though. There
are later sources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Culpeper
Post by unknown
There'd also be plenty of mileage in any indicator of whether someone might
react well or badly to a certain medical drug.  The geneticists used to
promise definitive tests for all that, but I don't think they've got far
yet.
One area where I would like to see astrology enter mainstream research
would be precisely that of the geneticists. One could think of the
birth chart as a variation of the genetic sequence, and to find areas
of overlap would be extremely exciting.
Post by unknown
If children with certain chart features reliably had a higher risk of
trouble at school, that might possibly be an argument for educating them at
home in the first place...
Or you would know how to change the school to fit their needs. Take
for instance neuropsychiatric disorders. I hesitate to think that home
schooling would in general be better for autistic children, but surely
knowing their condition makes possible better paedagogics. Whether one
would determine the condition through one means or another would not
change that.

/Kjell
Post by unknown
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My e-mail address is zen177395 at  zendotcodotuk, though I don't check that
account very often.
Post unto others as you would have them post unto you.
Post by Kjell Pettersson
Assuming an astrologer could give advice that was health-related
without being incarcerated I think one possible way of giving advice
based upon astrology, and upon knowing what possible diseases were
indicated by a person's chart, would be through diet advice.
I have read about an animal (sorry, don't remember what animal) that
eats of an herb known to have a medical effect only when it is sick,
but not touching it otherwise. We humans have surely lost this capacity
—the price of civilization—, but I think we could substitute instinct
with knowledge here. You would counter the signature of the disease
with the signature of a plant with medical properties, or perhaps with
an entire "diet signature". I know too little about Hippocrates, but
perhaps some ideas could be gleaned there? He was pro-astrology and he
was pro-diet.
Post by Kjell Pettersson
Regardless of whether the correlation is astrological or not, I think
it would be valuable to know, say, that you are prone to heart
problems. If so, you can change your diet and lifestyle in an
appropriate manner. If your parents and a lot of other relatives had
cancer, that would also signal to me that changing some things may be
more beneficial than changing others.
Having a focus for how and where to seek to implement changes is
likely to lead to more adequate changes being made, over-all leading
to a better health in the long run.
Of course, "a healthy lifestyle" is pretty much the same, but there
would still be differences in priorities.
/K
Post by unknown
Suppose somebody managed to prove a really firm statistical correlation
between some phenomenon and features in a Birth Chart. For instance, if
people with certain aspects were much more or less likely to develop a
certain medical condition. What practical use could you make of that
information? I mean, you can't go back and change the chart, can you?
Ideas welcome. Reason I ask is I'm plunging into research again, as
soon as
I've got the programming sorted out.
Kjell Pettersson
2012-02-04 15:06:21 UTC
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If children ...
These two words should have led me to an answer I feel is important,
but it didn't quite match the original question so I didn't think of
it. Anyhow, there is one area of medical astrology where it would be
completely safe and harmless to try astrology and that I think could
be more investigated, and it is that of fertility.

Could astrology make a clear mark in this area, astrology would spread
itself and would also be quite able to support itself financially as
well. It would even be quite an economical alternative to what is
available today WHILE astrologers would be making more money than they
usually are.

Of course, medical conditions barring pregnancy could not be overcome,
but when that is not the case, I am certain astrology could make a
contribution.

/Kjell

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